31-05-2002 08:15									#31
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OMG - Oh My God
OMFG - Oh My F*cking God

SG:

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	31-05-2002 14:56									#32
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UR, what´s wrong with the "abbrieviations"-threads in the CIV3-general?

	31-05-2002 14:57									#33
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Altough it IS a clever way of upping your post count

	31-05-2002 15:02									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Abbreviations aren't the same as acronymns. The later is a subset of the former.

Nah.

Abbreviations: attn (attention), mgnt (management)

Acronyms: NATO, NORAD, USA


Skanky,

I haven't been to Civ3 - General after it was turned into a flaming war ground among the newbies.

	31-05-2002 15:11									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Nah. Abbreviations: attn (attention), mgnt (management) Acronyms: NATO, NORAD, USA

And by which logic are Abbreviations the same as Acronyms, then?

	31-05-2002 17:50									#36
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KTOS - Kill Them On Site

	31-05-2002 18:17									#37
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BTW, I've always seen it as TANSTAAFL, *not* TINSTAAFL.
= There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

BTW = By The Way

	31-05-2002 19:07									#38
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quote: BTW, I've always seen it as TANSTAAFL, *not* TINSTAAFL.

that's 'cos americans don't do grammar.

	31-05-2002 22:31									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Nah. Abbreviations: attn (attention), mgnt (management) Acronyms: NATO, NORAD, USA

Acronyms are a specific kind of contraction. And what is an abbreviation if not a contraction?

	31-05-2002 22:33									#40
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and brits don't do... nevermind

	31-05-2002 22:34									#41
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit BTW, I've always seen it as TANSTAAFL, *not* TINSTAAFL. = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

Double negatives. Wonderful stuff.

	31-05-2002 23:34									#42
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A friend pointed out this thread to me, as I am fairly new to PBEM gaming and was confused with some of the messages I was recieving. Now I comprehend a little more.

However, I have a question:

Why would people use acronyms, especially since some of us are from different countries as well as linguistic backgrounds, instead of communicating clearly and accurately ?

	31-05-2002 23:46									#43
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quote: Originally posted by aaglo KTOS - Kill Them On Site

Is that the Internet version?

Kill them on sight.

	01-06-2002 00:49									#44
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit BTW = By The Way

I sometimes have trouble with this one. Can't figure whether they're talking about me .

I always thought that an acronym was an abbreviation that you said as a word, like NATO, but not EU - but my dictionary says otherwise - formed from the first letters of words.

	01-06-2002 23:34									#45
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FYI, here´s the link to the abbrieviations-thread in the CIV3-general forum. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...;threadid=26248

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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat ACOL = hell

No, really what does ACOL mean?

	02-06-2002 01:17									#47
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Alpha Centauri OnLine, I believe. It's another forum - started out as an AC forum, but I believe has since descended into a purely OT site, and a very anarchic one at that.

	02-06-2002 03:23									#48
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its anarchism is over, it is now dead. or as its remaining 4 denziens prefer it: undead.

	02-06-2002 06:54									#49
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quote: Why would people use acronyms, especially since some of us are from different countries as well as linguistic backgrounds, instead of communicating clearly and accurately ?

Most of these abbreviations are used in online games, like real-time strategy or role-playing games. Regardless, in these games time is all-important, and the difference between typing "KOS U" and "I will endeavour to kill you whenever I spot your evil self." could mean the difference between you actually having a chance in combat, or you sitting there getting hit whilst you are typing.

These then become used in forums because of people's general laziness.

Basically it saves time, and for people who are there long enough it is easily understood. I've even picked up a little Finnish from hanging around in some games!

BRB - Be Right Back.

	02-06-2002 06:59									#50
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AFK - Away From the Keyboard
BBL - Be Back Later
TTYL - Talk To You Later

	02-06-2002 08:47									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Acronyms are a specific kind of contraction. And what is an abbreviation if not a contraction?

You'd be right if you say both are forms of contractions. The thing is acronyms and abbreviations follow different rules.

So I am a bit pedantic.

	03-06-2002 22:27									#52
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An acronym is a word or name, that's what the -nym suffix means. It is especially applicable if the form is pronounceable, such as "NASA." So SMAC is an acronym, but ROFL is not, unless someone starts a software company called Roll On Floor Laughing.

IPTU (I'm pedanticer than you).

	03-06-2002 22:39									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat that's 'cos americans don't do grammar.

Errors =
that's -- should be capitalized
'cos -- slang foreshortening
americans -- should be capitalized
don't do grammar -- poor verb choice

Perhaps you mean "That's because Americans have poor grammar."

Thanks for generalizing.

BTW, "TANSTAAFL" was the name of a folkie performance venue at my university (dating to the early-mid 70s). Most of us knew the name long before we knew that it was an acronym. Before this thread, I had never seen the acronym TINSTAAFL. It's a question of common usage, not proper grammar.

	03-06-2002 23:23									#54
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I don't do grammar either on BBs. and in fact, I'd never seen either before this thread, and only ever heard it said as "there's no such thing..." *shrug*

	04-06-2002 00:21									#55
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Tanstaafl - is that not originally from Heinlein? "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" IIRC??

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	04-06-2002 02:55									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger You'd be right if you say both are forms of contractions. The thing is acronyms and abbreviations follow different rules. So I am a bit pedantic.

I wasn't the one that said they were the same, you were.

Besides acronyms are still abbreviations. Abbreviate - to reduce to a shorter form intended to stand for the whole.

	05-06-2002 08:28									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I wasn't the one that said they were the same, you were.

Wasn't.

	05-06-2002 13:30									#59
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ROTFLMAO @ UR & SG

children, children - calm down now - or uncle kermie will send you to play in his Mingapulco sandpit ...

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	05-06-2002 13:53									#60
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So who wrote this then?

quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Abbreviations are the the same as acronyms.