29-05-2002 21:51									#31
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you need a banana option. from around where i live, people have never even heard about the finland or the threat from that cold land of snow and ice

	29-05-2002 21:51									#32
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What, you don't know Waltari? Bad Snapcase, bad!

Hmm, Finns Aivo's forgotten:

Urho Kekkonen
Matti Nykänen (And don't we all wish we could forget him?)
Renny Harlin
Lasse Virén
Otto Wille Kuusinen
Tarja Turunen
Jorma Ollila

	29-05-2002 21:53									#33
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Aivo and the couple of us Finns who helped with the list in chat did not forget them... we just had to cut them out, otherwise we would of needed three polls instead of one.

	29-05-2002 21:59									#34
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We could have easily taken at least Larry Thorne away, probably also Ahtisaari (replace him with KEKKONEN! )

	29-05-2002 22:04									#35
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Sibelius was all I knew on the list, but he's enough.

HOW COULD YOU NEGLECT MARTTI TALVELA????

Outside of Sibelius, he is Finland's best musical export. A brilliant singer with an all-too-short career.

	29-05-2002 22:05									#36
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quote: HOW COULD YOU NEGLECT MARTTI TALVELA????

Who?

	29-05-2002 22:15									#37
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Not even Finns seem to know who this Martti Talvela characther is (myself included).

	29-05-2002 22:41									#38
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Aalto, Häkkinen, Tom of Finland, Litmanen, Mannerheim, Nurmi, Sibelius, Thorvalds.

Apart from those, Tarja what's-her-name as well, Esko Aho, Johan av Gran, Stratovarius, Apocalypica and Bomfunk MC's.

	29-05-2002 22:46									#39
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quote: Johan av Gran

Oh yes. Juhan af Grann.

How could you have so cruelly forgotten our pre-eminent bozo, Aivo½o? No, not you, I mean Grann!

	29-05-2002 22:47									#40
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Nihihihihi.

	29-05-2002 22:52									#41
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Juhan af Grann? He's not Finnish. He's... from Latvia (or our neighbouring galaxy, if you would ask him... in Latvia). That's right. Latvia, that little Baltic country that won the Eurovision song contest. Finnish? Hah! Never! No way, José.

	29-05-2002 23:04									#42
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What about the oh-so-aptly-named Svinhufvud?

	29-05-2002 23:06									#43
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I was abducted once, by blue space-men flying in small UFOs with bright blue flashing lights...

I had a major time and memory loss - I woke up at the local police station and they said I'd been wandering around senseless.

	29-05-2002 23:07									#44
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Svinhufvud=pighead. På svenska.

	29-05-2002 23:56									#45
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Hmm, I know a lot more Danes than Finns. Sibelius & Torvalds are good, but who are all these other people? Ugh!

	29-05-2002 23:57									#46
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Here's one vote for Tove Jansson!

	30-05-2002 00:09									#47
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I knew 6, but only remembered the 6th after taking the poll.

But I know a few others:
Veli-Matti Lindström and Matti Hautamäki

	30-05-2002 00:11									#48
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quote: Originally posted by kassiopeia Not even Finns seem to know who this Martti Talvela characther is (myself included).

Guess they're like those Americans who can't find their state on a map!

Talvela is the greatest Finnish opera singer of the century, a wonderful bass. He was world-reknowned for his performances and quite popular at the major opera houses around the world. He was tapped to manage Finland's largest opera festival and opera house.

He died in 1989, at 56, dancing at his daughter's wedding. He was a huge man, 6'7" and built like a bear:

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Talvela-Martti.htm

http://projects.locotech.fi/ondine/...=0&recordid=184

2nd link has a couple of sound clips.

	30-05-2002 00:25									#49
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What about Aaarsi Aaarshol?

	30-05-2002 00:29									#50
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There was a guy called Arsi in our upper elementary school.

	30-05-2002 00:35									#51
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I hope to God he didn't emigrate to Britain.

	30-05-2002 00:54									#52
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I hope he does. He's apparently read Mein Kampf (and not in "delving in mind of psychopath" or "books that have influenced people" sense) and once wrote a Finnish essay on how all blacks and gypsies and Russians are evil.

	30-05-2002 00:58									#53
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LOL Well, what would you expect of someone presumably from Joensuu

	30-05-2002 01:19									#55
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Hmm, Googleing some of these people afterward found this absolutely incredible site devoted to extolling the wonders of Finland! http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/ Check out some of these quote from "The Finnish Way of Life:"

" The Fenni live in astonishing barbarism and disgusting misery: no arms, no horses, no household; wild plants for their food, skins for their clothing, the ground for their beds.."

"They try to cultivate the mind a little there, but bears and wolves come so close in winter that all thought is of necessity concentrated on how to attain a tolerable physical existence."

"Serious, reserved and fond of a retired life." Descibres Stefu perfectly, eh?

"Nature´s unhappy stepson..."

"The Finns also have a bent for drink, even though there is no wine here whatsoever, except for illicit tavern keeping, which is harshly suppressed. But, all the way to St. Petersburg, the Finn will drink himself into forgetfulness, lose his money, horse, bridle, and return home poorer than a church rat."

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	30-05-2002 01:40									#56
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Plus all Finns carry knives and keep a year's supply of vodka in the shed.

	30-05-2002 01:50									#57
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"Their character can tolerate cold and toil and what many a nation would consider to be insufferable famine."
Christian Friedrich Weber
Das veränderte Russland
1721

A nation which has fought so valiantly for its independence deserves respect.

Joseph Stalin, 1879-1953


I like those quotes from Virtual Finland. Food is for losers!

	30-05-2002 01:51									#58
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Yes, we're rough, unkempt barbarians. And we're proud of it, dammit, except for Lenita Airisto. Dig these Finnish proverbs.

	30-05-2002 02:10									#59
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Can't believe you forgot Jari Kurri and Esa Tikkanen!

	30-05-2002 02:12									#60
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Could only have 16 options. I chose Teemu Selänne to represent the Finnish NHL players.