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Ralf
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Sweden
Mar 2000
time: 06:12
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Originally posted by Bell on 05-05-2001 01:34 PM
In general, DX performs much worse in windowed mode than in full screen. It will work...it'll just work slowly.
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I guess it all comes down how different the game actually performs comparing Window-mode with fullscreen. If Firaxis really dont think they can make the game run slick, efficient and non-sluggish in windows-mode - also on a relatively modest P3-500Mhz machine - then perhaps fullscreen is the best way to go. I certainly keep my fingers crossed for Windows-mode, but if push comes to shove...
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In addition to that, there's the technical problem that, if you allow your window to be resized, you have to build an interface that can be easily resized with it and still be functional. This isn't as easy as it sounds, especially if you want to keep it looking nice.
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Hmmm! Well, that IS something to think about. Perhaps all these added potential problems just isnt worth the trouble after all...
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Alt-Tab works just fine. I'd suggest that they drop the 256 color thing though, since Alt-Tabbing from within a DX game doesn't switch color depths very well most of the time. 
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256 colors only? From there have you got that piece of information? I thought that (at least) 16-bit was pretty much standard these days.
[This message has been edited by Ralf (edited May 05, 2001).]
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markusf
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Also whats all this BS about speed? Its civ for crying out loud. Its not Starcraft or total anhilation. Where you can have over 600 units moving at the same time with massive explosions etc etc. We will move moving 1!!!! unit at a time. Now unless your an absolutly horrible programer there is no way you should see a speed difference between fullscreen mode and windowed. in a game like starcraft i could see the possibility.(massive armies etc moving at the same time and talking over tcp/ip) but not civ!
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Primary reason to have windows mode:
Right now, I have IE open to fool around here. I am working (sort of) on my dissertation, and kicking some mongol ass in Civ2. You just can't do that with CTP and SMAC.
When Civ3 comes out, I will still be working on this dissertation, will feel the need to whine about stuff on Apolyton (not to mention raz everyone opposed to civ specific units if they turn out well), and will play Civ3 all night every night (need more coffee). Please window it!
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Jarouik
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Helsinki, Finland, EU
Dec 2000
time: 07:12
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I agree with the above posters that a full-screen mode is less than desirable. Although, if Civ III programmers implement it correctly, it should under no circumstances crash the game or computer, and I think that even thrashing the hard drive is due to the game taking up so much memory that the swap file has to be used when switching to other programs, so this is not a feature of full-screen per se, there are other negative aspects about it in comparison with windowed mode. Many of them I pointed out in my earlier post in another thread, which read thus:
I, for one, rarely or never play multiplayer Civilization, but would definitely want to have Civ 3 in a window anyway. All those countless hours of single player Civ 2 were partly made possible for me by the fact that the game is easily available and can be left on all the time while I surf the net, read email, use ICQ, listen to music and whatever else I might be doing - if the game e.g. changes system-wide video settings in any way, like SMAC, it would render other programs so ugly as to be unusable.
If you can't have it in a window, it had better be full-screen so that it is easily minimized and maximized and alt-tabbed out of and into like most games without affecting any other programs, not the way SMAC does it changing the whole system to 256 colors. A window, however, is the best option, since I have two displays and I love nothing more than being able to have any other programs open on my secondary display and clicking and using them any way I like while Civilization is still visible and open on my primary display - if you alt-tab out of a full-screen game, it will no longer be visible at all!
And yes, I like the fact in Civ II that I can cover the window with an Outlook Express window at work whenever somebody comes into my room 
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06-05-2001 09:04
I/we didnt know it was that easy.
, using hard blankspaces (#160) in the name, I really hoped for Windows after his vote. I hope that MarkG will ban him.
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