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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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Originally posted by kring
Having read the 9 page chat log, I am not convinced the Koreans are in. Flawed logic would say yes, but the key is that the Firaxians never admitted the Koreans were in; nor did they admit the Hwacha was a UU. I am not saying they are not in; I just don't believe the current evidence points conclusively to them being in.
Here, Mike did not confirm it was a UU; what he did was ask another question to throw people off track. Nor did he confirm the Koreans are in during his other response; he again threw people off by making a comment about how to get a GA another way. The thing to remember is that IF Koreans are in, have the Hwacha as a UU, then it would be unbalancing if their UU couldn't start a UU when all the other current UUs can. The Koreans could still be in, with the Hwacha as another arty unit available to all, if you have the necessary resource(s). The last could also be true, without the Koreans being in: a new arty unit.
I did try something today. I made Cannons and Catapults Start GA; Catapults were kept nonlethal; Cannons were made land lethal. Then I put both in a scenario as starting units, since I didn't want to wait that long to test the theory. Results:
Non lethal Catapults damaged several units, but no GA. Cannons destroyed a Babylonian Warrior; GA started. So, if Koreans are in and the Hwacha is a UU, then Lethal Bombardment would have to be enabled for it to cause a GA, as the game currently works.
The beta testers will know soon enough, but they won't be able to tell us. This sounds like it may be one of the last civs revealed since it is such a hot topic; what bettter marketing ploy than to withhold it until last?
According to the chat, some of the early units for Civ 3 didn't make the cut into the final product. |
hi ,
the last line , .....true , this had something to do with infogrames pushing , also , Sid wanted to go further , way further but this was deemed as unreal and to much , people where saying that no-one could "control" this , that it was to much at ones , ....
BUT , there should be more stuff in , a lot more , and more wonders , and even some civ-specific wonders (!) , ...
have a nice day
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Darkworld Ark
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of the Capitalists
May 2002
time: 05:20
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I don't see what peoples' problem is with the Middle EAst being crowded, because it is. Anyways, who plays on the real world map anyways, even if Firaxis adds a real world senario with realistic starting points, what's the fun in knowing were all the other civilizations are going to be?
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flesh.and.binary
Mar 2002
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First of all, there really is "no" evidence. The civ select screen in the video was tricked up. The XP is still months away, I'd say that's plenty of time for Firaxis to change their minds about any of the civs. Mongols and Spanish are the only ones that have been directly confirmed by Firaxis.
Especially if Firaxis is releasing a second XP in time like they say they are. They'll have to have some popular civs left for it.
As for the mid-east being crowded, it won't be any more than Europe. Spain, France, Gauls, Rome, Germany, Russia....When you're setting up a game, you just have to think logically about what civs to include in each region (No way will Firaxis allow a 24 player game. 16 is near unplayable as it is). I NEVER include Rome, as they just end up trapped on the Itallian penninsula with 2 or 3 cities, and get conquered by France or Germany.
also, as far as I know, the F-15 can't generate a great leader either, but it's still a UU. I'm not sure though, I never play as America.
Last edited by Mikhail on 22-06-2002 at 04:34
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Mikhail
First of all, there really is "no" evidence. The civ select screen in the video was tricked up. The XP is still months away, I'd say that's plenty of time for Firaxis to change their minds about any of the civs. Mongols and Spanish are the only ones that have been directly confirmed by Firaxis.
Especially if Firaxis is releasing a second XP in time like they say they are. They'll have to have some popular civs left for it.
As for the mid-east being crowded, it won't be any more than Europe. Spain, France, Gauls, Rome, Germany, Russia....When you're setting up a game, you just have to think logically about what civs to include in each region (No way will Firaxis allow a 24 player game. 16 is near unplayable as it is). I NEVER include Rome, as they just end up trapped on the Itallian penninsula with 2 or 3 cities, and get conquered by France or Germany. |
hi ,
they might trow in a bigger map , ...
and when palying on a 256X256 map , why , not , room for 31 civ's , ....
have a nice day
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Mikhail
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flesh.and.binary
Mar 2002
time: 23:20
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it's not the 'room' that's the problem with playing with 31 civs. It's the turn time.
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Originally posted by Oerdin
The Koreans did not invent movable type printing. Currently there is an argument in academic circles whither China or Korea where the first to invent wood block printing in the 8th century. Wood block printing differs from Guttenburg's movable type in that each page had to be carved out of a piece of wood, thus it could only be used to print a single page over and over,
while Gutenburg's movable type could be rearranged into which ever order the author wished.
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According to this site http://www.printersmark.com/Pages/H...#Anchor-ORIGINS China invented the wood block printing in 6th century. Movable type printing was invented in China in 11th century, not Guttenburg. Koreans were the 1st nation that used METAL movable type, in 1403(first time/and extensibly).
And while not mentioned in this site, Korea was the first to use METAL block printing in 12th century. Also Korea owns the oldest wood block printing (dated 751 or older).
I just want to clarify all this confusion.
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
I think that the reason Firaxis hasn't told us the 8 civs is because it isn't final yet. They are probably still debating just like we are....all I know is, I hope all the civs they are debating over get in and we end up with 10 or 12 new civs instead of 8. |
hi ,
 , that would be great , ... who knows , ....
there is room in total for 32 , one for the barbarians , maybe one for the UN , still we have 31 or 30 , ...right now 16 , so there are still 15 or 14 out there , okay lets say they shall use the option of "the country split's in two" , then they should , or could still bring 10 out , at least , ....
 , now , all we need is a bigger map , ....
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11-06-2002 01:08
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