11-06-2002 00:48									#31
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG it's one thing to have a slow connection as it would the case if it was something related to KPNQuest and another in this case. in this case it is an issue of the server not being able to handle all the requests, e.g. a hardware(cpu, ram) upgrade is needed

Probably not a server issue. I say do lots of tracerts and make them prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the problem is on the server.

Very sill to assume that the server is at fault even if that is the most likely cause. Need to make people do tracerts.

	11-06-2002 00:56									#32
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quote: Originally posted by GP Probably not a server issue. I say do lots of tracerts and make them prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the problem is on the server. Very sill to assume that the server is at fault even if that is the most likely cause. Need to make people do tracerts.

hi ,

Gp , done 4 , and its 4 times something else , one time it took 6 MIN to get to the infogrames site , ....the other times , 37 sec , 28 sec and 1.45 min

have a nice day

	11-06-2002 01:40									#33
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Judging by the other posters, it seems it's happening every day!!

So, this morning it worked, then all the afternoon it was out of order, and now the evening it works again!

	11-06-2002 01:53									#34
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quote: Probably not a server issue. I say do lots of tracerts and make them prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the problem is on the server.

please trust me when i say that the specific message comes up ONLY when the cpu load is high
again, nothing to do with the connection, nothing to prove with doing traceroutes

	11-06-2002 02:00									#35
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Probably not a server issue. I say do lots of tracerts and make them prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the problem is on the server. please trust me when i say that the specific message comes up ONLY when the cpu load is high again, nothing to do with the connection, nothing to prove with doing traceroutes

hi ,

Mark , would this be because your experience with the old server from apolyton , ....

BTW , what are we talking about when we say server CPU , from them that is , a cheap ready over the shelf or so , .... , a company like that could do better , way more , .....

maybe its because there stock went down , and now all the stockholders want to see what is going on , ......

anyway , Mark they should look at this one , this one is good

have a nice day

	11-06-2002 02:29									#36
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quote: what are we talking about when we say server CPU , from them that is , a cheap ready over the shelf or so

of course it's nothing for them to get a better server.

but often companies dont act so fast. can you imagine the bureucracy of the tech department having to ask for a new server, justifying it's purchase, etc?

there is also the example that there have been times where we posted a patch before the official site cause it was late or it was friday evening and the webmaster for that particular site had gone home


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	11-06-2002 02:46									#37
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: what are we talking about when we say server CPU , from them that is , a cheap ready over the shelf or so of course it's nothing for them to get a better server. but often companies dont act so fast. can you imagine the bureucracy of the tech department having to ask for a new server, justifying it's purchase, etc? there is also the example that there have been times where we posted a patch before the official site cause it was late or it was friday evening and the webmaster for that particular site had gone home Apolyton. A 24/7 service for gamers and developers

hi ,

their departments , well , the right hand does not know what the left does , a good example , their sales dep , trying to sell PTW , this rep say's that , that rep that , and so on , .......

as for the last line , yep you guys are the best site , ...

BUT , at what cost , sleeping next to your comp's , .....

not to mention that you guys do it for , .......FREE , .....

have a nice day / night

	11-06-2002 18:27									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: what are we talking about when we say server CPU , from them that is , a cheap ready over the shelf or so of course it's nothing for them to get a better server. but often companies dont act so fast. can you imagine the bureucracy of the tech department having to ask for a new server, justifying it's purchase, etc? there is also the example that there have been times where we posted a patch before the official site cause it was late or it was friday evening and the webmaster for that particular site had gone home Apolyton. A 24/7 service for gamers and developers

Word from the Infogrames forum admin is that they do have simultaneous user access issues. Mainly (my opinion based on what he said), that there's only one user database and thus the load in terms of simultaneous users doesn't scale well, despite the database machine being fairly hefty (dual 1.7Ghz processors, 1GB ram).

Part of that stems from the fact that it's running MySQL -- it's not particularly well-suited to this volume of traffic because it can't handle very many simultaneous accesses efficiently. I think Postgresql might work out better, but I'm not going to assume hasn't already tried it, either. Those may be his only practical options given that those are the only popular/free DBMSs out there....

	11-06-2002 18:51									#39
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Hah! I got a "server too busy try again later" from Apolyton just yesterday morning (Mon 10th)!

	11-06-2002 18:54									#40
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quote: dual 1.7Ghz processors, 1GB ram

well, except from a cpu less we have a similar system

	11-06-2002 19:26									#41
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I just got a "server too busy try again later."

Is this because of the new stats?

	11-06-2002 19:29									#42
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dont think so

	11-06-2002 19:44									#43
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That's good.

	11-06-2002 19:49									#44
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Markie, I was just being sarcastic. I can remember when Dan was very reluctant to fiund the server at fault. (Asked for tracerts and other troubleshooting, when it was pretty obvious the server was the issue...when multiple users all over the World see a problem...and its only with one site...the issue is not in the net.)

	11-06-2002 20:53									#45
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dp

	11-06-2002 20:53									#46
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I've had two servers too busy since the new stats.

Just a data point.

	12-06-2002 01:09									#47
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quote: Originally posted by GP Markie, I was just being sarcastic. I can remember when Dan was very reluctant to fiund the server at fault. (Asked for tracerts and other troubleshooting, when it was pretty obvious the server was the issue...when multiple users all over the World see a problem...and its only with one site...the issue is not in the net.)

Well, it's the server or the part of the connection that all the users rely on (the server's interface on out to at least the first level provider's demarc).

	12-06-2002 03:00									#48
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Xentax, sure. And what we foudn invariably was that it was either a code issue with the site or more commonly a server issue. But Dan was much more interested in ruling out low likelihood scenarios before inpsecting the mkost likely rpoblems. I think part of the issue was the Tech Service at Gamestats which game him the runaround. (I've managed techs...I'm familiar with the tendancy to try to fingerpoint away...)

	12-06-2002 03:10									#49
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or perhaps it's not very noble of a person to publicly "point the finger" to coworkers and partners...

	12-06-2002 09:55									#50
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vBulletin code problems tend to get noticed. This was one I got this morning (along with 2 "The server is too busy at the moment or the maximum number of guests have been exceeded. Please try again in a few minutes" messages):

Warning: Too many connections in /home/virtual/site1/fst/var/www/html/forums/admin/db_mysql.php on line 40
Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections
in /home/virtual/site1/fst/var/www/html/forums/admin/db_mysql.php on line 40
!-- Database error in vBulletin: Link-ID == false, connect failed
mysql error: Too many connections
mysql error number: 1040
Date: Tuesday 11th of June 2002 10:59:04 AM
Script: /forums/poll.php?action=pollvote&pollid=2513&optionnumber=5
Referer: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=52639
--

There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.
Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.

Last edited by Straybow on 12-06-2002 at 10:05

	12-06-2002 10:09									#51
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Oops, there was some html in there the vBulletin didn't like… nothing like a stray {/table} to mess things up.

	12-06-2002 12:12									#52
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Maaakos...you are a wise young man...

	12-06-2002 12:24									#53
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quote: you are a wise young man...

i know i am, but why?

	12-06-2002 12:28									#54
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The choice between tact and truth is an interesting question. But even that you state it as this makes me feel confirmed in my suspicions...