21-06-2002 15:59									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I also don't even see how someone can talk about "easy to install and uninstall". It simply cannot be made any simpler. You run the installer, click next a few times after you tell it where to put it, and it's done. To uninstall, go to Add/Remove Programs, click the program's name, click 'Remove'.

apt .

(for those who haven't heard... running "apt-get install [package]" in Debian GNU/Linux automatically downloads the program and all the libraries and documentation it needs and installs them. Uninstalling is just as easy.)

Speaking of apt... I think it's time to upgrade all software on my comp... Time to run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade!

	21-06-2002 16:08									#62
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Exuse me, what is wrong with win me.

i had a p166 16mb win95 machine for 4 years,
then last year got 1000mhz athlon 512mb geforce 2mx400, with windows me.
what is so wrong with it, it crashes, but compared with 95 it is ok, and i do multitask it a lot.
Macs are ok, but the poor choice of games and incompatibilities make pc my choice (IHMO)

	21-06-2002 21:56									#63
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Try Windows XP. It blows Me out of the water.

	21-06-2002 22:33									#64
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Asher's up to his old tricks, huh?

Well, I have a new reason for you to start using a Mac. MS Office. Yup, MS Office v.X for OSX blows the windows version out of the water. I work in the financial industry and spend my whole day working with Word docs with numerous charts, graphs and weirdly specific formatting requirements. I use both a PC with Word and a Mac with Word and I can conclusively state that after months of exhaustive trials, Word for Mac OSX is better. It's more stable, the floating pallettes work better than the crappy toolbars, its built in paragraph numbering doesn't give random EOF errors, its redlining feature doesn't have the annoying habit of marking an entire paragraph as deleted and replaced when only the first sentence was changed, it creates pdfs without the random errors that plague its Win brother and it is better organized. And most importantly, when flipping back and forth between multiple 100+ page complex formatted documents on my iMac G3 with OSX and 256 megs of ram (i.e. nowhere near top of the line) Word doesn't crash if you flip into and out of a document while Word is doing a disk operation. The same can not be said for my IBM Thinkpad with WinXP and 256 megs of ram (yay, they upgraded me) which regularly locks doing the same operation. Why, our IT department can't tell me, but they've certainly tried to fix it.

If Microsoft sensibly adopts its Mac team's approach to Word for its Windows version I'll be an even happier man. But for now, I'd rather be using my Mac.

	22-06-2002 01:15									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Echinda Well, I have a new reason for you to start using a Mac. MS Office. Yup, MS Office v.X for OSX blows the windows version out of the water. I work in the financial industry and spend my whole day working with Word docs with numerous charts, graphs and weirdly specific formatting requirements. I use both a PC with Word and a Mac with Word and I can conclusively state that after months of exhaustive trials, Word for Mac OSX is better. It's more stable

I haven't had stability problems with Word 2002...

quote: the floating pallettes work better than the crappy toolbars

I take it you don't know how to make floating pallettes in Office XP?

quote: If Microsoft sensibly adopts its Mac team's approach to Word for its Windows version I'll be an even happier man. But for now, I'd rather be using my Mac.

Personally I can't stand the interface in Office X. It's so...gay, for lack of a better word. Too annoying and distracting.

	22-06-2002 02:31									#66
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Gay!?! That is all you came up with?

Where is Boris when you need him? He wouldn't let you get away with such scurrilous remarks.

	22-06-2002 02:33									#67
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quote: Originally posted by tishco Exuse me, what is wrong with win me. i had a p166 16mb win95 machine for 4 years, then last year got 1000mhz athlon 512mb geforce 2mx400, with windows me. what is so wrong with it, it crashes, but compared with 95 it is ok, and i do multitask it a lot. Macs are ok, but the poor choice of games and incompatibilities make pc my choice (IHMO)

get XP, not crash proof, but close

	22-06-2002 02:56									#68
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Yes, I have been turned off by the Apple concept. They seem waaaay too expensive, and the figures just don't knock my socks off. As I say, Apple just seem to be selling a concept, not a good system. If people are dumb enough to fall for a marketing crusade and not see the facts, more fool them!

	22-06-2002 03:01									#69
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XP is fine, I must admit that in the 9 months or whatever it is I have been using it I have not had one single system lockup whatsoever...of course I have had programs crash but XP handles them with consummate ease.

	22-06-2002 03:36									#70
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i also have good experiences with XP, but i hate the new start menu's, so i changed that back to classic, another annoying thing is that you can't resize the quick launch bar, what's the point of adding more items there, if you still have to click through a menu

other than that, everything works fine, and the program-crashes are clean (i can continue without rebooting), although shutting down goes a bit slow...

	22-06-2002 03:38									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy i also have good experiences with XP, but i hate the new start menu's, so i changed that back to classic, another annoying thing is that you can't resize the quick launch bar, what's the point of adding more items there, if you still have to click through a menu

You can resize it, just unlock the taskbar first.
Right click on any blank area on the taskbar, uncheck "lock the toolbar", and resize/move it around.

	22-06-2002 03:43									#72
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ah...excellent
finally i got my old setup back, thanks

	22-06-2002 03:45									#73
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Hehe, you find out something new every day. I was going to say that I have no problem resizing the thing when unlocked...but looks like I was beaten to it.

I am pleased that I can say I have no idea what the blue screen of death looks like in XP.

	22-06-2002 03:47									#74
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It's a darker shade of blue.

I got it once back when it was called the Whistler Beta 1. It didn't even have this new XP Interface yet, had a completely different one which they have now scrapped.

I force-fed it Win9x video card drivers to see what it'd do. That's the only time I've gotten the BSOD.

	22-06-2002 03:50									#75
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Well that's a pretty silly thing to do

Does it look like the previous NT BSODs, which I have seen a few of?

	22-06-2002 03:53									#76
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I was going to suggest to ask people and get a screenshot the next time they get the BSOD

	22-06-2002 03:56									#77
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Slight problem - because the system has gone down, you can't get a screenshot

A photo would have to suffice

	22-06-2002 08:37									#78
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It's a matter of taste. I have my personal style and Asher has his. Whatever, I still sleep easy at night knowing I have a computer that works great…

	22-06-2002 08:39									#79
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tishco

quote: Exuse me, what is wrong with win me.

i've had nothing but bad luck with it.
brand new computer, p4/1.7ghz, 256mb rdram, 60gb hd, geforce 3 64mb.
first week i had it, didn't install anything... winme crashes. system restore won't bring it back. reinstalling winme casuses every single driver to screw up. once i get it back up, after two days straight working on it, the first msdos program i try to run freezes the comp.
this happens when you take a perfectly fine win9x chassis, and try to slice off the msdos bit with a chainsaw and file down the rough edges.

i switched to winxppro when i got the chance. did a full wipe of the hd, then formatted it.
it's run fine ever since.

	22-06-2002 14:34									#80
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it seems ok to me, my small hard drive is more of a worry

	22-06-2002 15:47									#81
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 It's a matter of taste. I have my personal style and Asher has his. Whatever, I still sleep easy at night knowing I have a computer that works great…

See, that line of argument is such a cop out. Yes, it may work, but a damn sight slower but at a considerable cost. Consider buying a PC for your next system monolith Have you ever considered helping Apple with their advertising campaign?

	22-06-2002 16:21									#82
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Provost, how often do you use Macs? You sound like a typical Mac-bashing PC user.

	22-06-2002 18:12									#83
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I have used Macs before and they are certainly not all they are cracked up to be. I found it quite sluggish (although admittedly it was an old one) and pretty unstable.

	22-06-2002 18:20									#84
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I used an old PC the other day and it was sluggish and pretty unstable.

	22-06-2002 18:23									#85
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Exactly. So Apple doesn't have the higher ground in this argument, that is what I am saying, especially when you look at how much they charge for the damn things compared to PCs, and then realise that modern PCs are faster than modern Macs.

Let's face it, the nature of Apple's advertising campaign is very negative: 'Because it works'? Well last time I checked, my PC worked fine, hence I am posting here...

	24-06-2002 20:10									#86
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i used an old mac the other day and it was sluggish, i don't know about unstable. i couldn't get past the sluggishness.

i used my old pc the other day and thought it very sluggish, so i shut it down. i again didn't get to the unstable part.