22-06-2002 06:02									#31
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Snowfire: Don't get it just for the one short story. It's only about 30 pages, after all and almost totally devoid of character development. But that's just ****.

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SS: I couldn't agree with you more. It was a real shame how low quality it was.

The Man in the High Castle still might raise some eyebrows with the international audience that the moviemakers are going after nowadays.

	22-06-2002 06:36									#32
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True...it would probably ignite some Anti-Americanism...but you know that the Japanese and Germans all secretly wish we were their peons.

	22-06-2002 07:00									#33
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What is The Man in the High Castle about?

	22-06-2002 08:05									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DanS The Man in the High Castle still might raise some eyebrows with the international audience that the moviemakers are going after nowadays.

I think everyone would fail to notice. That book is a bore. I read it a second time just to see if it was really as mediocre as I thought the first time. It is. I never have understood how it got a Hugo.

	22-06-2002 08:09									#35
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc What is The Man in the High Castle about?

Its set in an alternate Earth where the Nazis won WWII. Maybe if D!ck had actualy written a plot instead of casting the I-Ching to decide the plot turns the idea would have worked. Some people do like it though. It did get a Hugo. But for me its the worst thing I ever read from him besides the Zap Gun (which had no zap gun).

	22-06-2002 08:23									#36
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Hmmph. I liked both AI and the Man In the High Castle.

In fact my entire family liked AI. I thought that the acting was really good, the visuals were awesome, the story was interesting and surprising, and my only quibbels are with the slightly hokey voice over and occasionally the soundtrack. Also, at times it moved as slowly as Blade Runner.

I thought AI was quite similar to Blade Runner, and I think that in the future, will acheive a similar status…

www.rottentomatoes.com reports that 96% of the movie reviews are "fresh" (good) while 4% of the reviews say that the movie is "rotten". I'm definitely going to cheeck it out.

	22-06-2002 08:26									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred But for me its the worst thing I ever read from him besides the Zap Gun (which had no zap gun).

Do I even want to ask why it was named Zap Gun if it had no zap gun?

	22-06-2002 09:03									#38
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Do I even want to ask why it was named Zap Gun if it had no zap gun?

I think it was a fake secret weapon but I don't really remember. The main thing I remember is characters doing tranqs to be cool and there actually being no Zap Gun. My favorite of his was The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldrich but I haven't read it decades. The last one of his I read was when I reread The Man In the High Castle. Before that it was the book that Roger Zelazny helped him finish. Didn't care for that either and Zelazny was my favorite author.

I read most of D!icks books back when he was still alive and writing. So they are a bit fuzzy in my mind.

	22-06-2002 09:24									#39
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We're talking about a library here. You go in there and read it there, especially if it's a short story. No need to "get it." But thanks for the number.

Hmm, I saw the last 2/3 of Screamers because my roommate rented it in hopes of it being a cheesy bad horror movie. Ended up being dissapointed because it wasn't so bad as to laugh at it, but it was more of a wasted potential type thing. And ugh, the plot holes towards the end definitely needed some work.

	22-06-2002 11:28									#40
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Ethelred: I was referring more to the subject matter rather than ****'s particular take on it. Germany and Japan represent about 1/3 of the global sales for such a film and Axis victory seems like a verboten subject to them. Also, much of the sales is derived from countries that still harbor a lot of ill will toward the Japanese and Nazis.

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	22-06-2002 11:46									#41
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I saw the movie, and it WAS freakin' amazing.

	22-06-2002 16:54									#42
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AI was pretty good...until the end. THat is the dumbest, most unrealistic ending I've ever seen.

	22-06-2002 21:41									#43
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I hated AI.

	23-06-2002 03:00									#44
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd I hated AI.

See! Other people hate it too!

	23-06-2002 05:25									#45
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After being burned by AI (why oh why couldn't they leave the kid in Little Mermaid-ville?), I'm a bit hesitant about MR.

But I'm a total sucker for visuals. If it's pretty and shiny enough, I can ignore the other bits.

	23-06-2002 05:27									#46
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I'm going to go see this movie tonight with someone, so I'll be back with a review later.

	23-06-2002 09:32									#47
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I watched the movie earlier tonight and, I must say, it was pretty damned good. The future, as portrayed in this movie, looks pretty cool. I especially got a kick out of the air guns and city freeway scenes. Nice "military cop" uniforms and equipment as well.

I take it that ****'s original short story was set in some sort of post-World War III America? If so, the movie seemed to ignore that for the most part ... 52 years from now looks like a relatively nice place to live. The "personalized" ads and cereal boxes might drive me bonkers, though.

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	23-06-2002 09:47									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper ...it was pretty damned good. Gatekeeper

Just, pretty damned good?

Gonna' see it Monday morning.

	23-06-2002 10:09									#49
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Anunikoba:

You want me to add a Hershey's Kiss or something to my thoughts regarding the movie?

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	23-06-2002 11:47									#50
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I really loved this movie. This will join my DVD collection once it's out on DVD.

	24-06-2002 07:19									#51
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Saw it Saturday. Pretty good, although the ending didn't hold too many surprises. Certainly better than Spielberg's last crapfest, A.I. Still don't like the hazy camera work in outdoors shots, but it wasn't a big deal for the most part. Cruise wasn't bad, but didn't stretch himself much, either. Some of the action sequences were pretty damn cool, like the jet pack fight.

	25-06-2002 11:13									#52
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don't want to read too much. I think I'll see it tomorrow or Wednesday

	05-07-2002 18:58									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper [fanboy] Tsk. You people today just don't *understand* the deep message in AI that, by rights, should bo SOOOO obvious. Thirty years from now, people will look back on AI finally understand the eternal WISDOM that shines throughout the movie! [/fanboy] Gatekeeper

AI was a very good movie. I do not understand why Spielberg is accused of being manipulative all the time....he is just good at what everyone tries so hard...to manipulate our emotions. I must admit that, just like Ryan, I had scenes from AI for weeks lingering in my head.

	05-07-2002 20:41									#54
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Awesome movie that was! Kept you guessing and made me think a whole lot about time paradoxes and such. Love that sort of thing.

And one of the best things: It was a sci-fi movie that did not over use special effects. It really was about the story. And a very good (and humorous) story it was. Most people in the theatre didn't laugh though.