21-06-2002 21:35									#91
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oh please, more unimaginative stuff.

	21-06-2002 21:36									#92
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Boris is one of those that use the zzz smiley and the like whenever they need to cover up their utter madness.

	21-06-2002 21:37									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion It's already the most important match of the tournament for me. I reckon it's a 2-0 for us. The USA aren't considered worthy to be in the quarters over here, BTW. What do you think? Will our team keep to the chancellor's promise of unlimited solidarity?

Are you talking about the Rhine Fire or the Frankfurt Galaxy?

	21-06-2002 21:37									#94
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USA! USA!

Good tourney . We played wonderfully in this game, had many chances and dominated possession. Anyone think that Leverkusen will play Donovan in a starting role next year .

Of course, snooty Europeans like Ecthelion totally underestimated the Americans and should be on their knees thanking Voller than he didn't do the same .

	21-06-2002 21:39									#95
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Im, I already have admitted to the US playing greatly, especialy in thsi game. They were way underestimated for all the time. Great tourney for them.

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	21-06-2002 21:43									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Boris is one of those that use the zzz smiley and the like whenever they need to cover up their utter madness.

Better than those who resort to a gay slur when they're at the loss for a real argument...

	21-06-2002 21:43									#97
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Leverkusen seems to lose a lot of players, they should take in Donovan. It's not like he was so good that scored on Germany or anything so that would be possible.

	21-06-2002 21:44									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Sprayber - I'm talking Cottbus Crayfish and the like

Hmmm. must be a new expansion team.

	21-06-2002 21:44									#99
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Imran, maybe the USA's performance will finally give soccer the regard it deserves in the US, as opposed to NASCAR. Could you imagine what would have happened for soccer in this country had we made it to the finals?

	21-06-2002 21:46									#100
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Sport teams from this city usually suck.

But one has to admit we have a pretty successful handball team in the first division as well as a footy team up there that has survived for 2 years so far. If it wasn't for the money, East Germany would have a lot more representation in upper regions of sports. Think all the East German players in West German teams. Or how many olympic gold medals go to East Germans. Especially those women with beards and chests like Weissmüller

	21-06-2002 21:48									#101
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quote: It's not like he was so good that scored on Germany or anything so that would be possible.

And not like Leverkusen's owner is like Gacchi .

quote: Imran, maybe the USA's performance will finally give soccer the regard it deserves in the US, as opposed to NASCAR. Could you imagine what would have happened for soccer in this country had we made it to the finals?

Well, we might get some more fans for MLS, but NASCAR will always rise. NASCAR will probably end up passing hockey (if it hasn't already).

	21-06-2002 21:49									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Think all the East German players in West German teams.

For you that are unaware of the country of Germany, East Germany consists of most of central Europe...

	21-06-2002 21:50									#103
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Central Germany then

	21-06-2002 23:18									#104
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thank god soccer is done. i can now get back to baseball and nascar reruns!

yeehaw!

	22-06-2002 00:37									#105
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I think the Deutch-hand call was just one of those things that happen in a match. If Hugh Dallas had seen it 12 times in slow motion replay he may have changed his mind, but maybe not. Frings' (edit not Linke's) hand is definately away from his body...

But a little bit better shot from Berhalter and it would have left them both with no chance. See you in four years...

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	22-06-2002 00:38									#106
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The great famous Sten Sture actually posted in my thread

	22-06-2002 00:42									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion ...Sten Sture actually posted in my thread...

No need to worry, I'm just an Imran DL

	22-06-2002 00:43									#109
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Sten; Saw the incident from another angle and it didn't look like the ball hit the hand at the time of that photo but later when his arm was almost alongside his body. That makes it even harder.

	22-06-2002 00:43									#110
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A true vetereans' inside joke!

*bows down and praises Sten Sture*

	22-06-2002 00:45									#111
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I'm actually surprised the Americans on this board react in such a calm way. Europeans would be outraged if their teams lost under such considitions. That can be evidence for being really relaxed, but also for being totally indifferent about the true and only football.

	22-06-2002 00:51									#112
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I think our c'est la vie attitude is partially because the Mexicans cried and blamed the ref for losing and so did the Italians. We want to be able to win regardless of the ref. The reality is that it was a tough call to make in real time. (I have posted before that I was not a big fan of Hugh Dallas - I think he is really random on calls)

	22-06-2002 00:54									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui NASCAR will probably end up passing hockey (if it hasn't already).

There is a reason why you see more NASCAR event on national tv then hockey games. They do better in the ratings

	22-06-2002 00:54									#114
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It's also hard to feel outraged when your team made it further into the tournament than anyone had any right to expect, and even went down playing pretty well.

-Arrian

	22-06-2002 00:55									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Ming There is a reason why you see more NASCAR event on national tv then hockey games. They do better in the ratings

Being forced to watch NASCAR 24-7 is my personal version of the 9th circle of hell.

-Arrian

	22-06-2002 00:56									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Being forced to watch NASCAR 24-7 is my personal version of the 9th circle of hell. -Arrian

While I do find an "occasional" car race interesting... I would have to agree with your opinion on this

	22-06-2002 01:02									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin ...it didn't look like the ball hit the hand at the time of that photo but later....

This may have actually been just after the ball hit his arm and he is reacting by pulling it away, his arm was closer to his body when the ball hit it I think. From the replays I saw he didn't move his arm between the time Berhalter shot and when it hit his arm, so the incident was apparently unintentional - however, I think the rule is that a defender with his arm away from his body can be called for the infraction even if it was unintentional. Not sure about that - not exactly my field.

	22-06-2002 01:03									#118
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That can be evidence for being really relaxed, but also for being totally indifferent about the true and only football.

Yeah, well we went down with honor. If our team had sucked, we'd be a bit mad, and if we had 3 goals disllowed or something similarly horrific in the same game we'd probably be mad, but as it stands we got to watch a great soccer match and the US to still do better than everyone expected. I'll take it.

I hope that the TV ratings thing is more indicative of hockey's decline than NASCAR's rise. Hockey at least can be interesting, even if some people are out to actively ruin the sport via all the stupid fighting things. NASCAR... car racing is only fun when you can blow stuff up and your car comes back after it falls off a ledge. IE electronic, silly car racing that's not actually about car racing.

	22-06-2002 01:04									#119
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Need for Speed, baby!

-Arrian

	22-06-2002 01:04									#120
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We could use NASCAR as a fiendishly vindictive punishment on white-collar criminals in prison...