22-08-2002 01:24									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III Believe it or not, but Austria traditionally has good rowers and sailing boats and even wind surfers... We don't suck too much in women handball and got some good runners, esp. 800m women. Hm, what else: Well, we're top 16 in Ice Hockey and our swimmers are getting better every year. What are you Croatians good at, except for Football and your 2 skiers - I mean except for Hooliganism - in this discipline Croatia is unbeatable...

Two skiers, I have to say this is the funniest thing that I have seen yet. We never had skiers, nor do we have proper skiing slopes, etc.. but I guess we were lucky that that family is a Croatian one. And I guess when skiing is 0 of a sport in the country the family did not get pestered by ski beaurocrats and the like, and they were left to develop alone.

Anyway we kick your A$$ in skiing . I have to admit |I never thought we will have anyone to be better than the slovenians let alone the best in the world, and if they continue like this, Janica could just as well be the best ever.

As for the rest. We are better than Austrians in most sports
In our short history we were for a while best in basketball at the beginning (in the rest of the world of course -US doesn't count), silver from Barcelona OI, but lately we are crap last couple of years, Hanball - gold from Atalanta OI~ went downhill since too, in waterpolo - Silver Atalanta we used to kick a$$ ~ now are I guess still top 5 or so, but we lost from Italy and Spain just now so not too good at the moment either. Womens handball, I have no idea now, but you might be better than us now, if you say Austria is on a high.
Football, well ... not to good either as we were but still holding on.

But if we were playing Austria regularly... well that would be nice .

And did I mention Wimbeldon last year , and Iva Majoli has a grand slam from a few years ago. And out of our 20-30 regular swimmers we got three medals from last EP.

ah fortunatly there is always someone who suprises us nicely. Maybe we are small, but hey there are always suprises.

As for hooligans, well I guess you have plenty of them too, but what was that on Arsenal vs Rome in Wien a few weeks ago, game abandoned... I wander why not that you are saints either...

Ok I give you ice hockey... we barely have a team there

	22-08-2002 02:40									#243
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Giovanni joins OFITG in second place... ...Giovanni has now joined me in first place... ...OFITG and Giovanni share second place... ...Giovanni is now alone in second place... ... 1 Paul 52 (+15) 2 Wernazuma III 46 (+12) 2 Giovanni Wine 46 (+11) 4 OneFootInTheGrave 45 (+10) 5 Locutus 42 (+15) 5 MikeH 42 (+12)

It's amazing what happened while I was on vacation


Saluti

P.S. Now that I'm back I'll probably lose every point and rank last

	25-08-2002 02:37									#244
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My predictions for the next week

Tuesday, 27-08-2002 and Wednesday, 28-08-2002:
Internazionale - Sporting Clube de Portugal 0-1
FC Slovan Liberec - Milan AC 0-1
Brøndby IF - Rosenborg BK 0-1
Club Brugge FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0
AEK Athens FC - APOEL Nicosia FC 3-0
Legia Warszawa - FC Barcelona 0-3
FC Dynamo Kyiv - PFC Levski Sofia 2-0
Newcastle United FC - FK Zeljeznicar 2-0
FC Bayern München - FK Partizan 2-0
AC Sparta Praha - KRC Genk 1-0
SK Sturm Graz - Maccabi Haifa 0-2
FC Basel - Celtic FC 0-1
Fenerbahçe SK - Feyenoord 2-0
Manchester United FC - Zalaegerszegi TE 1-0
AJ Auxerre - Boavista FC 0-1
FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Grazer AK 1-0

Good luck for everybody

	25-08-2002 14:28									#245
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave As for hooligans, well I guess you have plenty of them too, but what was that on Arsenal vs Rome in Wien a few weeks ago, game abandoned... I wander why not that you are saints either...

Nah, we're no saints, but our few hooligans mainly go to Rapid Vienna or Austria Vienna matches (or some to GAK-matches), while your hooligans invade hooligan free sports like skiing or women handball. I still see the pictures of the women handball coach lying unconciously on the floor because a Croatian hooligan had knocked him out!

	26-08-2002 23:08									#246
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	27-08-2002 18:33									#247
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Tuesday, 27-08-2002 and Wednesday, 28-08-2002:
Internazionale - Sporting Clube de Portugal 2-0
FC Slovan Liberec - Milan AC 0-2
Brøndby IF - Rosenborg BK 1-2
Club Brugge FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk 2-1
AEK Athens FC - APOEL Nicosia FC 2-0
Legia Warszawa - FC Barcelona 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - PFC Levski Sofia 3-1
Newcastle United FC - FK Zeljeznicar 3-0
FC Bayern München - FK Partizan 2-0
AC Sparta Praha - KRC Genk 2-1
SK Sturm Graz - Maccabi Haifa 1-1
FC Basel - Celtic FC 1-1
Fenerbahçe SK - Feyenoord 1-1
Manchester United FC - Zalaegerszegi TE 3-0
AJ Auxerre - Boavista FC 1-2
FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Grazer AK 2-0

	27-08-2002 19:46									#248
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just realised I didn't post my predictions yet.

Internazionale - Sporting Clube de Portugal 2-0
FC Slovan Liberec - Milan AC 0-2
Brøndby IF - Rosenborg BK 0-1
Club Brugge FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk 2-1
AEK Athens FC - APOEL Nicosia FC 2-0
Legia Warszawa - FC Barcelona 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - PFC Levski Sofia 1-1
Newcastle United FC - FK Zeljeznicar 3-0
FC Bayern München - FK Partizan 2-0
AC Sparta Praha - KRC Genk 2-1
SK Sturm Graz - Maccabi Haifa 2-1
FC Basel - Celtic FC 1-2
Fenerbahçe SK - Feyenoord 1-2
Manchester United FC - Zalaegerszegi TE 3-0
AJ Auxerre - Boavista FC 1-2
FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Grazer AK 2-1

	27-08-2002 22:02									#249
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Internazionale - Sporting Clube de Portugal 2-0
FC Slovan Liberec - Milan AC 0-1
Brøndby IF - Rosenborg BK 1-1
Club Brugge FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk 1-1
AEK Athens FC - APOEL Nicosia FC 2-0
Legia Warszawa - FC Barcelona 1-3
FC Dynamo Kyiv - PFC Levski Sofia 2-1
Newcastle United FC - FK Zeljeznicar 3-0
FC Bayern München - FK Partizan 3-1
AC Sparta Praha - KRC Genk 2-1
SK Sturm Graz - Maccabi Haifa 1-1
FC Basel - Celtic FC 1-2
Fenerbahçe SK - Feyenoord 1-1
Manchester United FC - Zalaegerszegi TE 3-0
AJ Auxerre - Boavista FC 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Grazer AK 1-0

	27-08-2002 22:18									#250
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Nearly forgot.

Put them all down for 1-0 home wins please. I'm feeling lazy.

	28-08-2002 00:55									#251
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Fenerbahçe SK - Feyenoord 0-2

Wernazuma is now alone in 2nd place. He's the only one in the top 10 who got a point for this match.

	28-08-2002 01:22									#252
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AC Sparta Praha - KRC Genk 4-2
FC Bayern München - FK Partizan 3-1

OFITG joins Giovanni in 3rd place; Wille moves up to joint 5th with Locutus and Mike.

	28-08-2002 01:54									#253
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Internazionale - Sporting Clube de Portugal 2-0
Manchester United FC - Zalaegerszegi TE 5-0

OFITG is now alone in 3rd place; Wille is alone in 5th. Wille and CyberShy had the best results of the day with 6 points.

I will post the full standings after tomorrow's matches.

	28-08-2002 12:05									#254
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wow, got all matches right, and even an exact prediction. I should have abandoned that 1-1 tactic earlier

	28-08-2002 21:49									#255
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1-3 already and it's only half-time. Poor GAK, those Moscovians make a goal from every chance they get...

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FC Slovan Liberec - Milan AC 2-1
Brøndby IF - Rosenborg BK 2-3
Club Brugge FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk 1-1
AEK Athens FC - APOEL Nicosia FC 1-0
Legia Warszawa - FC Barcelona 0-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - PFC Levski Sofia 1-0
Newcastle United FC - FK Zeljeznicar 4-0
SK Sturm Graz - Maccabi Haifa 3-3
FC Basel - Celtic FC 2-0
AJ Auxerre - Boavista FC 0-0
FC Lokomotiv Moscow - Grazer AK 3-3

1 Paul 61 (+9)
2 Wernazuma III 58 (+12)
3 Giovanni Wine 57 (+11)
4 OneFootInTheGrave 55 (+10)
5 Wille 54 (+13)
6 MikeH 53 (+11)
7 Eli 52 (+11)
8 Locutus 50 (+8)
8 Sloth 50 (+12)
10 Azazel (Dalgetti) 49 (+12)
11 Yaroslav 48 (+8)
11 Fergus Horkan 48 (+10)
13 Zealot 47 (+11)
14 Victor Galis 46 (+12)
15 Zopperoni 45 (+8)
16 Sagacious Dolphin 44 (+11)
17 Sirotnikov 42 (+5)
18 End Is Forever 41
19 CyberShy 36 (+10)
20 Notyoueither 35 (+11)
21 Fistandantilus 32 (+10)
22 Fiera 31 (+11)
23 JohnIII 17
24 Saint Marcus 15
25 Dr. Stiby 4
26 Juggler 2

The spreadsheet with all the results has been uploaded. Tomorrow is the draw for the first round. After the draw I will post a new thread with the matches for the first week. And you can then also post your predictions for CL winner, top scorer and the 8 group winners.