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Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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You are absolutely correct my little feline friend.

How about Jeff Dahlmer and Ted Bundy, or are you most interested in political psychos?

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Ron, think this will help:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kvenjb/madmon.htm



Edit: Read the one on Fyodor I of Russia. A familiar character is in there...

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One of my favorites of all time:

The Syrian Elagabalus (204-222) was one of the most bizarre Emperors of Rome. He was a nephew of the mentally unstable Emperor Caracalla (188-217). When Elagabalus was 14 years old, his grandmother, Julia Maesa, his mother, Julia Soaemias, and her lover succeeded by bribing and plotting in gaining the throne of the Roman Empire for him. After the execution of his mother's lover, Elagabalus left the Imperial government in the hands of his grandmother.

Originally Elagabalus was called Varius Avitus Bassianus. He became known as Elagabalus, because he was the high priest of the deity El-Gabal, possibly the Syrian sun god Baal. It was a phallic-oriented cult; the sun god was worshipped in the form of a great, black meteorite and two colossal phalli flanked the entrance of the temple in Emesa. When Elagabalus became Emperor, he made the crazy attempt to introduce this Syrian cult to Rome. He had a new temple built on Rome's Palatine Hill and had El-Gabal's black relic transported to the new temple in a chariot decorated with gold and precious stones. In addition, Elagabalus conceived the idea of marrying his god to a goddess, either the Semitic goddess Astarte or the Sabine goddess Minerva. In 220 he broke into the secret sanctuary of Vesta and raped Aquilia Severa, a chaste Vestal Virgin. Although Roman law held that any Vestal who had had sexual intercourse should be buried alive, Elagabalus married her, expressing a hope for 'god-like children'. He divorced her soon afterwards, but took her back in 222.

As a priest Elagabalus did sacrifice; he slaughtered multitudes of cattle and sheep, laid them on the altars and drenched them with the finest wines. Afterwards he danced around the altar to the sound of cymbals, flutes and drums, fascinating those who saw him. He wore very costly, silken clothes embroidered with gold. He detested Greek and Roman clothes, because they were made of wool, a cheap material. Preferring finery, he also liked to dress like a woman. He used to paint his eyes and rouge his cheeks and was depilated all over his body. Elagabalus even conceived the idea of castrating himself, but to consecrate his priesthood he confined himself to circumcision only. He was not only a transvestite, but also a bisexual and, although the Romans were accustomed to Emperors who associated with young boys as a sideline to their heterosexual activities, Elagabalus' indulgence in his sexual escapades has earned him everlasting notoriety. According to Cassius Dio, a contemporary, Elagabalus was often thrashed by his lovers, and bore the marks on his body. He added that Elagabalus "frequented the notorious brothels, drove out to the prostitutes and played the prostitute himself" and that he "set aside a room in the palace and there committed his indecencies, always standing nude at the door of the room as the harlots do" and "in a soft and melting voice he solicited the passers by". Elagabalus created a public bath inside the palace, so that he could collect paramours with remarkable phallic endowments. Even more infuriating to the people of Rome was the appointment of his lowborn lovers to the highest offices. With a fair Carian slave, Hierocles, Elagabalus even went through a form of marriage. In addition, Elagabalus had a long train of female concubines and a rapid succession of wives, including Julia Cornelia Paula, the Vestal Virgin Aquilia Severa and Annia Faustina, a relative of the notorious Emperor Commodus (161-192).

His position as both a high priest and Emperor of the Roman Empire fed Elagabalus' sense of self-importance and induced his megalomaniacal tendencies. He was preoccupied with fantasies of finery and power and even attempted to become the embodiment of either his male deity or its female counterpart. He was an immature, self-centred exhibitionist who required constant admiration and attention. He expected absolute service without taking any responsibilities towards his subjects. His rapid succession of lovers and wives shows that he was incapable of having a meaningful personal relationship. Criticism infuriated him and he responded to it with imprisonment and execution. These symptoms indicate that Elagabalus might be diagnosed as a person with a narcissistic personality disorder.

Elagabalus' way of life came to infuriate the army more and more. His grandmother, worried by his indiscretions and affronts to the people of Rome, persuaded Elagabalus to adopt his cousin Alexander (208-235) and to invest the youth with the title of Caesar. Thus Elagabalus' divine occupations "would no longer be interrupted by the care of the earth". Near the end of 221 Elagabalus turned against the amiable Alexander and in March 222 a revolt broke out. Alexander was declared Emperor. Elagabalus, nearly 18 years old, was killed in the latrine where he had taken refuge. His detested mother was slain too. Their bodies were dragged on hooks through the city and thrown into the Tiber. Some of Elagabalus' favourites were slaughtered by tearing out their vitals, while others were pierced up the anus, "so that their death fitted their lives". El-Gabal's black relic was sent back to Emesa.

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How about Fez....

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Sava, for the last time...needs to be in a position of power!

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How about Sava?

If he was in power I would be the first to book tickets for switzerland.

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Isn't Strom from SC? I know Helms is from NC...


Dammit. Always get those two mixed up... let's face it, it ain't hard to do. They're both a few conflicts of interest short of a Florida Presidential election.

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George III?

Leaders and the powerful only? Nothing recent? Not simply petty (?) criminals?

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William Lyon Mackenzie King was more than a bit of a nutbar, as well as being a rabid anti-Semite. He was sorta like Canada's version of Nixon...

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Tiberius wasn't really a psychopath. Rome suffered under the psychopathic emperors, but under Tiberius that had a rather prosperous period of peace. Now, if you crossed him he'd do you and your family, and he had a penchant for buggereing small boys, but that was standard Roman stuff. I'd put Caligula over Tiberius anyday.

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KH. I was thinking more like Karla Homolka. You know, the one who offered up her own sister to her 'man' and most likely murdered her to hide the secret.

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We have our own lunatics - actually more along the lines of bastards - but you'd probably have difficulties researching them.

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He likes them to have wielded power...

I think it feeds his inner anti-establishment demons.

Remember that King was the one who held séances to get war advice from his dead dog...

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How about Shaka? I understand he had delusions of godhood and tended to leave prisoners stuck up on poles like so many scarecrows.

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hi, lenin was a nut towards the end. i saw a chart that showed how after he got dementia he was killing twice as many people as usaul

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How about the Paraguayan dictator who invaded Brazil and Argentina?

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Power. OK.

The Borgia's? Too obvious.

Stalin or Mao? Way too obvious.

Robespierre, St Just el al.? Of course he's used these already.

You know, it might help if he told us who he's already looked at...

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iirc Vlad's wife.

Either that, or I'm cofusing him with some other slavic prince who had a huge castle and who had an absolutely demented wife.

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Thanks for telling me Fez, now I'll know the first place to invade ... don't worry though, the labor camp I put you in won't be too harsh

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I'll have to vote with Harrison, especially on Idi Amin.

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You know, thinking back to my undergrad years, I seem to remember a number of Byzantine rulers (emperors, regents, generals, hangers-on) who were stark raving mad. Gouging out the eyes of their siblings or castrating them or, if they were in a bad mood, both... unfortunately, I can't recall any names. It's been over three years since I had that class, and I sold all my books.

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Chinese emperors. Throw in the odd dowager empress and a few malevolent eunuchs and you have plenty of material to work with.

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Tiberius wasn't really a psychopath. Rome suffered under the psychopathic emperors, but under Tiberius that had a rather prosperous period of peace. Now, if you crossed him he'd do you and your family, and he had a penchant for buggereing small boys, but that was standard Roman stuff. I'd put Caligula over Tiberius anyday.


For most of his life, that holds true. However during the last 10 years he was a monster, and the last 6 were a reign of terror.

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what about the noseless murderous byzentine emperor and the crazy one that thought his soul was caught in a bit statue of a pig? I can dig up names if necessary...

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Please do. Byzantines aren't my strong point.

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OK will get around to that after work
the Paraguayan I was talking about is Francisco Solano Lopez who got half of his country killed

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Hmm, Latin American dictators... another psycopaths Eden for you!

The Somoza familiy dictators in Nicaragua would be my favourite pick. Anastasi Somoza, who was in office form 1937 to 1953, if memory serves right was the one who made FDR said: "He may be a son of a *****, but he's our son of a *****".

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George Steinbrenner

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The Somoza family would be pretty good, just in terms of far out corruption, especially with such things as the House of Dracula. But I'm not sure I'd term them psychopathic.

How about "Daddy" Duvallier, of Haiti? He was a voudun priest in addition to being one of the nastiest dictators of Haiti (which is saying something.

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hi, lenin was a nut towards the end. i saw a chart that showed how after he got dementia he was killing twice as many people as usaul


The problem with that was, one, Lenin didn't have dementia, he had a stroke. If you read his writing from that period you can tell he's still got a sound mind. Two, he was no longer in power, as he was convelescing. It was in this year that Stalin began his take over of the Soviet Union, which would be completed six years later.

 
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