26-06-2002 22:08									#91
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither So how were the Ruandese on Belgian soil?

They were living here dumbass.

quote: The ruling deals a major blow to Belgium's law giving the country's courts the right to try foreigners for serious human rights abuses wherever they are committed.

The genocide law specifies that the defendant has to be Belgian soil. What did the journalist expect? That the court would ignore what the law specifies?

	26-06-2002 22:18									#92
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quote: His political career was finished until the darling of the EU, Arafat, started a war he could never hope to win.

'Yes Officer, he started the fight when he hit me back'

	27-06-2002 21:20									#93
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quote: Saint Marcus, I did not understand that responsible parties are under criminal investigation in Holland. If this is the case, I guess the troll was misguided.

Damn right it was.

And they are under investigation. A Parliamentarian Enquiry is being set up, following the recently released NIOD report.

	27-06-2002 22:57									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Damn right it was. And they are under investigation. A Parliamentarian Enquiry is being set up, following the recently released NIOD report.

Do you think Holland will compensate the victims families?

	27-06-2002 23:21									#95
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc His political career was finished until the darling of the EU, Arafat, started a war he could never hope to win.

Acutually, while Sharon was kicked out of Defense minister, he remained a minister wihtout portfolio in the Begin government, then went on to be a minister in the Shamir government, where he was minister of agriculure and had various other jobs, all during which he did as much as anone to expand settlements, an set up the current ocupation regime. He was out of a job when Rabin and Peres were in Power but came right back with netanyahu. Thus, Sharon has been continually in israeli politics, and in the Israeli government ever since his (according to the Israeli govenment) indirect resposibility in a massacre in which (accroding to the ICRC) at least 1500 people, not 800, died. Also not mentioned is that Raphael Eitan, Commader of the IDF back in 1982 who once called Palestinians 'drugged out cockoroaches' is now in the Sharon Cabint. Today,in no western democracy would many politicians implicated directly in the massacres of many civilians continue to stay in politics and reach top positions. Heck, if they ever made a derogatory remark in public even close to what these men have said (Sharon called Israeli Arabs, 17% of Israel's citizen, the same percentage as African Americans, a 'cancer', Begin called Palestinians 'two legged beasts') people would want their heads.

	27-06-2002 23:54									#96
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Today,in no western democracy would many politicians implicated directly in the massacres of many civilians continue to stay in politics and reach top positions. Heck, if they ever made a derogatory remark in public even close to what these men have said .

...Berlusconi, if you want to call Italy a western democracy that is, I guess he's doing his best to stop that...

	27-06-2002 23:56									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin ...Berlusconi, if you want to call Italy a western democracy that is, I guess he's doing his best to stop that...

What was the quote?

	28-06-2002 00:00									#98
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oh well he has made several, iirc one was that Islamic countries are of a inferior culture...

	28-06-2002 02:42									#99
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quote: Do you think Holland will compensate the victims families?

That's anyone's guess, but it is likely something along those lines will happen.

	28-06-2002 03:20									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus That's anyone's guess, but it is likely something along those lines will happen.

Good.

It turns out the Dutch are rather decent folks. My regrets and apology.