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KDan
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You know what... I decided to slow down my game and did that modification that whoever mentioned to get 10 times as many turns and 1/10 the research speed... and at the same time I found out how to really use slaves...
The really really cool thing is that now I actually got to use all the units. I was very glad when I discovered bronze working so I could have phalanxes along with my warriors to be sure to resist against my neighbour's legions, and have a chance of killing them too, I was extatic when at last (after a couple hundred turns from the start) I discovered domestication and, at last, had a ranged attack unit to be more sure to win - etc.
And all through this I used slavers everywhere, enslaving my dear neighbour's slavers and everyone I beat... and I have to say this bloody rules!
Now I've just built the emancipation act. I've got 3 cities over size 30, who up to now were filled some with up to 21 slaves! I LOVE it. It's so cool having a size 30 city that also keeps growing all the time because the slaves hardly eat anything...
The cool thing is although I misfired on the turns slowdown (2900 BC and built the emancipation act :-P) that doesn't really matter since I got the research slow down right, I think... I just changed the research handicap from 25 to 250 in the DbDiff.txt file... anyone know of a better way?
The thing is, right now I've got a very massive civilization thanks to all the slaving I did (I had roving stacks of samurai+archers+slaver wandering around my nearest competitor's territory, fighting all units they could kill without damage on the spot :-) ), and my research has kind of sped up - ie I can research stuff like Gunpowder etc... in 11 turns. Now I know that's a lot of turns, but as I said that game is slowed down... except that at 11 turns/advance I won't get to use all of the units :-(
Especially when I start having research labs and stuff... I'm not sure it will slow down again when I reach "critical mass" or if my research will keep on growing exponentially...
So... anyone know of a more... constant way of slowing down research? Because this way it was slowed down too much in the beginning, and not enough once I got my cities so over-sized... which is easy when you've got so many turns to slave...
Anyway... Now I can try to use this on a normal game... but I still think that the slowed down game, although obviously very slow and tedious at times, is better than the normal game... More strategy, more buildup...
Daniel
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KDan
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Yeah, I've done that (the no-goods bit) which saved me from having to build the Labyrinth - which I couldn't have built anyway...
But still it's going too fast! Now it only takes me 10 turns to discover things like railroad, and 4 turns for stuff like Machine Tools... That's WAY too fast to have time to enjoy all the units fully...
So are you playing it slowed down (in terms of years/turn) or not??
I did try a game with 30 players a while ago but with the P166 I have over here in Geneva, it kind of gets ridiculously slow...
Daniel
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Diemar
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Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
time: 05:12
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Kdan
Then just play on a smaller map, with as many computer players, that your computer adequately kan support.
This will mean that everone directs more resources towards military, in order to keep what land they have. This, Combined with alomost no goods, should slow things down.
By the way...has everybody lost interest in my game because of my resent absence?
Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar
[This message has been edited by Diemar (edited September 30, 1999).]
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Diemar,
Just a few questions...
What year is it now?
What are your city and production levels at?
How far away are you from:
Agricultural Revolution?
Gunpowder?
Cannons?
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KDan
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Yeah, what's up? Did you forget about us story-hungry people? :-)
Or have you given up on this game...?
Daniel
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playnice
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Washington, DC, USA
Nov 1999
time: 05:12
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I to got hooked on the story. Please continue.
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Yes - this is good stuff. PLease share your story with us all. 
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Tilemacho
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Heraklion, Crete , Greece
Nov 1999
time: 05:12
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Hi Im new around.Im an old civ2 maniac from Greece
Diemar your story is exellent so please keep posting...
I only played a game in warlord that I found easy without using any slaves...
Diemar I would suggest that you gave an early save of your game, so that we can play it too and see how it goes...what do you think?
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Diemar
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Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
time: 05:12
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Well, i'm trying to steal some time to play games, but i'm always busy with homework from the university.
I have'nt played anything seriosly since i began at the uiversity.
But hopefully i'll get a vacation soon, which i can devote to ctp play'in.
Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar
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Diemar,
When you get a change to play again, you should really try one of the mods which incorporates the AAIP (improved AI) files. This makes the game much more challenging.
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Deimar, this is very intersting. I thought I knew how to play, until I read your story. You've given me lots of tips, and though I just registered for the forums, I've read this column for a long time, waiting for the next installement.
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