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wervdon
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Offensively, I imagine we'll lose about as many troops either way, the question to me seems to be how to minimize losses in a probable counter attack.
You do have a good point about their additional production if we delay. I'll therefore withold any vote Id cast for the plan until closer till d-day so to speak, hopefully we'll get some intelligence about their troop strengths and locations prior to the actual attack.
I don't know if we have an embessy or not, or if we have funds to pay for an investigation of their two largest cities, but Id recomend it be considered if it is possible.
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Trip
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Hunt Valley
Apr 2002 time: 00:20
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The best way to eliminate the chances of a counter-offensive is to eliminate the locations that enemy troops may appear. Needless to say, a country with 3 cities can produce more units than a country with 2. In addition to that, if the Americans do by chance have offensive units situated in their cities, then a dual offensive will quickly eliminate their initial defensive Spearmen units, while also leaving their offensive Archers (Swordsmen will be highly unlikely) vulnerable to the start of the offensive.
In regards to getting more intelligence about the Americans, if we establish an embassy, then we automatically get a view at Washington. If we were to do this, then we could investigate their capital the turn before our invasion begins. While this will 'waste' 30 or 40 Gold, we will know their exact troop count the turn we attack. Also, we need to research Writing first, since we can't establish an embassy until we do. 
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wervdon
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Your words ring true, President Trip, Im sold on your plan for a dual offense. An investigation isn't necessary, but if the opportunity presents itself, it couldn't hurt when it comes time to split our forces up.
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Hunt Valley
Apr 2002 time: 00:20
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quote: Originally posted by Verto
I agree with this plan, but think we do need to look at every possibility, however unlikely. |
Of course. A better plan may emerge, but this is the best idea I can come up with. Luckily we don't have to worry about supply lines, transport, etc. If that was the case then I'd have to think out things a bit more (which is both good and bad).
quote: If France declared war with us, would we be able to defend our cities? Would it take so long for the French to reach us that we will have built additional units, or pulled some back? |
Operation Eagle would require constant reinforcements from Apolytonia, which would also allow for the creation of the 3rd Army if France attacked. They would hold off the French while in the jungle, while the 1st Army would support them once they got there. The 2nd would pivot around the line and help destroy the intial French assault wave from behind. From there, we could construct a new plan on how to deal with France.
quote: Is there a chance that another civilization borders America that we will come in contact with, demand something, then declare war? |
It's possible, but unlikely. While in the vulnerable position of a war, we should try to appease our neighbors as much as possible. A good saying I've heard is "swallow your pride for now, so that you may drink from their skulls later." 
quote: Like I said, just think everything needs to be discussed. |
So it should. 
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Benjamin_Berman
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Baltimore, Maryland
Jun 2002 time: 00:20
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My suggestion is that we should postpone the invasion and concentrate on the research of army-enhancing technologies like Mathematics. If we put all our resources towards science, we can research strong military units before our American rivals do, and have less of an army to deal with in the defeat of them.
For example, we should develop a few catapults, some horsemen (If we can get out hands on some horses), and some swordsmen (If we have the Iron resource). Then we can overrun the American archers and spearmen and warriors quicker.
P.S. If we don't have those resources, mabye we can trade with the Americans until we declare war and take advantage of the peace while we still have it. Or we can trade with the French for needed resources.
P.P.S. Vote for me in the upcoming election; I'm running for military minister.
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Donal Graeme
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Jul 2002 time: 21:20
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As the Americans are industrious and and expansionistic, they will be a threat later in the game when they expand and become a major empire. Unless of course we kill them. You are right, TPR, that we could invite a vicious counter-attack. This is why Plan Eagle relies on nailing all of the American units at their cities. If we can quickly capture all of their cities, they lose. They may have one or two military units wandering around though, and they could be a problem until we finish off Boston and Philadelphia. Here the jungle is helpful, as they won't be able to reach our cities before we close on them.
Really, the biggest problem that we face is trying to catch them with all of their units nice and sleepy inside their cities. Which razes..., I mean raises, another question: what will we do with the american cities? Capture them, or burn them? It has been my experience that the AI doesn't always build in the best spot, so we might want to build our own city where Washington or New York, or more likely, Boston is. Just a thought.
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