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Arrian is offline Arrian
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Oooh, now there's a lovely thought. The Israeli/Palestinian bloodbath writ large.

-Arrian

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Jan 2001
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IIRC, The same thing was said before the Libya raid.
A bombing attack is one thing, it's another seeing US tanks rolling through Bagdad.

But it could go either way, it might even cause some of the moderates to have hope and assert themselves against the fanatics, if they see US help forthcoming.

Roland is offline Roland
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Chris:

"Bush is not predictable, it's hard to say how he will decide."

Maybe he'll just toss a coin.

"I don't believe there is a heavy risk of failure"

Depends on what you see as a failure. The main risk of failure comes after a successful invasion in the "and now what?" phase. The lunatic hawks in the admin have not only not provided a clear plan how to oust saddam, but they haven't even addressed the mich bigger problem of what to do Iraq then.

"I also think it will inflame the muslim world like nothing else. "

Do you think it's worth it ?

Lemmy is offline Lemmy
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Dec 2000
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The lunatic hawks in the admin have not only not provided a clear plan how to oust saddam, but they haven't even addressed the mich bigger problem of what to do Iraq then.

heh, i'm sure the pentagon has dozens of plans on how to topple Saddam, they're just kept secret. They have been "warring" him for a decade now, it would be very strange if they didn't have some plans now.

Roland is offline Roland
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I'm sure there are lots of military scenarios around, but the question is which one to chose under the circumstances, and what the political plan is.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Do I think it's worth it?

Only if there is a realistic plan of action on what to do in a post Saddam era, not a "what do we do now?" thing you mentioned.
They better have a viable plan on what to do for an Iraqi government.

I have given it some consideration, and in the long run, I think the benifits would out-weigh the short-term deficits, but again, only if some effective fair government is brought there.

The danger is that such a government would NEVER be accepted by a number of fanatics (like our mysterious friend OBL, for example), but I have hope that many Muslim people are growing tired of being crushed under the medieval rule of hard-line fundementalists, and will do something to free themselves from them.

Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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Mar 2000
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Didn't I say no scratching and biting?

 
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