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Jethro83
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Newcastle, Australia
Mar 2002
time: 15:20
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My favourite social engineering choices depend on the faction I'm using...
Gaians: Police State, Planned, Knowledge, Cybernetic
Hive: Police State, Planned, Power, Eudaimonia
University: Democratic, Planned, Knowledge, Cybernetic
Morganites: Fundamentalist, Free Market, Knowledge, Cybernetic
Spartans (favourite faction): Democratic, Planned, Power, Eudaimonia
Believers: Fundamentalist, Free Market (with Punishment spheres), Power, Thought Control
Peacekeepers: Democratic, Green, Power, Cybernetic
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Clear Skies
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looking for a saviour in these dirty streets
Jul 2000
time: 05:20
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My choices usually go to Demo/Knowledge/Green/Eudaimonia. Yes, yes, i'm a treehugging idealist, so sue me already  I can never be bothered with Free Market, the ecodamage and lack of police is a massive PIA, and I never seem to need the money anyway. Efficiency plugs the gap, if not as effectively at least a lot more cleanly.
Knowledge can be a bit of a pain, though, at least until one builds the HSA. Once I actually got beaten to it (wow! The AI actually learnt not to sell vital technology to me! I'm impressed!) and was forced to switch off Knowledge before I got probed into oblivion.
Eudy is a great idea, and I love the quote for it:
The happy life is thought to be one of excellence; now
an excellent life requires exertion, and does not consist
in amusement. If Eudaimonia, or happiness, is activity in
accordance with excellence, it is reasonable that it should be in accordance with the highest excellence; and this will be that of the best thing in us.
-- Aristotle,
"Nichomachean Ethics", Datalinks
Last edited by Clear Skies on 20-07-2002 at 15:45
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Jac de Molay
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Detroit
Sep 2001
time: 05:20
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The reason I pick Police State as the Gaians is because later on, the -1 Police really does tend to bite. Also, there has to be some way of supporting those hordes of demon boil mind worms that the Gaians are best at using, since conventional troops with won't be fighting too well with the -1 Morale penalty |
As the Gaians are my favorite, I havent seen a problem with this. I go for the straight explore path and pick up those wonders along the way which boost alien life cycle (Xeno and pholus). Throw in base improvements, and you can still spit out demon boils no prob. The support is an obstacle, but building all forests, Im generating a fair enough amount of minerals to support 4 or 5 native life per base-not too bad.
Even with a 10% psych allocation, I've noticed the police rating is a non factor, especially with tree farms in place and later hybrids.
I've been trying to wean myself off of the Gaians. I'm playing my current game as Yang, and it seems almost too easy, at least in SP. The ability to generate hordes of Missile infantry is almost too much  But still fun just the same.
Dave
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The Bloody Baro
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For SMAC: Peacekeepers with Democracy, Planned, Knowledge, Greek word for happiness. [sorry forgot spelling] Well I can't remeber the EXACT stats however I do remember that I had no minusesses.
IRL: Democracy, Planned, Knowledge, and Greek word again.
I keep the people happy with the greek thing and Democracy and get to do what I want with the money and brain power
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Method
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/me goes to France
Feb 2001
time: 00:20
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Originally posted by The Bloody Baro
Peacekeepers with Democracy, Planned, Knowledge, Greek word for happiness. Well I can't remeber the EXACT stats however I do remember that I had no minusesses.
I keep the people happy with the greek thing and Democracy and get to do what I want with the money and brain power |
you would have had -2 morale -2 probe and -2 support. all of which can be countered by SPs though (cyborg factory, Hunter seeker, and living refinery)
the greek thing (eudaimonia) and democracy only INDIRECTLY make people happy by increasing your energy output, and even then you have to crank up the psych. that isn't a bad combo though. +6 growth, +2 econ, +2 research +3 industry; not bad!
Last edited by Method on 21-07-2002 at 02:45
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Pandemoniak
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of Xanadu, French Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
Jul 2002
time: 06:20
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And so you make the money AND make people happy with the same thing. Eudaimonia is just great.
+2 Efficiency, + 2 Planet, +2 Research, -3 Police
Efficiency make less waste, and allows you to have more bases, which is more important.
+2 Economy, + 2 Industry, +2 Growth, -2 Moral
Eco gives you more credits for science, Industries gives u more Supply Crawler/Orbital Energy for more energy for science, growth gives you more population for more energy, but excessive growth can be negative though. With a 70Lab/20Tax/10Psy you do good investments with your credits
I think +2Research/+2Efficiency is not as good for science as the +2Economy/+2Efficiency/+2 Growth, and the -3 Police is far more annoying than the -2 moral and the risk of excessive growth...
I think Eudaimonia is better than Cybernetic, even for research. It depends of ur energy allocation, but Cybernetic worth Eudaimonia only with the Cyborgs
(but I think there's a SP or a tech that suppress the negative effects on Cybernetic, am I wrong ?)
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The Bloody Baro
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Well I'm the peacekeepers so any advantages I get stick. Plus the ineffeciency is easily countered with my social engineering. If you guys look closely at my stats and my faction [peacekeepers] represent the way I like to play the best. A balanced game that doesn't execl at anything but doesn't have any weaknesses to exploit. Plus in the game I'm playing I've got like 4 monoliths so I pay No attention to morale. Also if Free Drones are a faction for the expansion well I don't have the expansion. So does anyone know where I could get it?
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spartak
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Demo - FM - Wealth or Knowledge depending on game situiation - no fixed allegiance for future setting.
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17-07-2002 16:00
But it makes deidre mad....
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