26-07-2002 15:29									#31
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf most is anglifized in civ3, which is a real shame. other wrong written leader names, here correct(er): jeanne d'arc mao zedong (wrong too, but nearer) iulius caesar katarina (the great) not to speak about all the cities. is too much expected to have "köln" instead of "cologne" or "münchen" instead of "munich"?

is it too much to ask? no, it isn't.

you have an editor. use it. that's what it is for.

	26-07-2002 15:57									#32
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet is it too much to ask? no, it isn't. you have an editor. use it. that's what it is for.

that's not my point.

ignorance shouldn't be supported. people could learn historical and geographical things with civilization, why not teach it to them properly?

btw: changing every single mod i try and test would be too anoying. i just do the 3-4 most (to me) important things...

	26-07-2002 16:05									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Dom Pedro II It's a game, and furthermore, each time you play its on a completely fictional world with wars that never happened with civilizations that never encountered each other due to differences in time, space, or both. Therefore, the leaders and civs could be completely fictional, and it will still be exactly the same

So your saying you wouldn't give a **** if patton was king of America?

	26-07-2002 17:59									#34
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf that's not my point. ignorance shouldn't be supported. people could learn historical and geographical things with civilization, why not teach it to them properly? btw: changing every single mod i try and test would be too anoying. i just do the 3-4 most (to me) important things...

Its not ignorance its western tradition. In the west countries and cities have different names in different languages. In English Germany is called Germany, in French its called Allemand. I've never understood WTF that's about. If the Germans call it Deutschland that's what everyone should call it. But that's not what we do. Firaxis was just doing the same thing everyone else does.

	26-07-2002 18:03									#35
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I Think we should call the countrys how they call it!
Scotland, not damn Schotland.

	26-07-2002 18:05									#36
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As a person that values historical accuracy a lot, I want to add two things to this discussion:

- first, complexity. Civ 3 is a game . Making it completely historically accurate, would be impossible to achieve and it would make the game unplayable
- second, fun. Imagine a game that is completely historacally accurate. Every game would be identical, and the outcome would be exactly the same. That wouldn't be much fun, now would it? Much of the fun in playing Civ III is based upon the fact that you can change history!!!

All I'm saying is that Civ III cannot and should not be a history book.
However, where complexity and fun do not prevent it, I think a game like Civ III should be as accurate as possible from a historical point of view. This means that I can live with Hannibal as the leader of the Cartaginians (although it would be better if they named him general and his people Phoenicians), though I have serious problems with Abe Lincoln and the Americans in 4000 BC (IMO it would be more fun to have the Americans proclaim their independence at some point in the game - bring back the concept of civil wars!!). Other examples are easily given.

	26-07-2002 18:06									#37
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were not talking about the Scenarios!

	27-07-2002 00:05									#38
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quote: accordning to legends, rome was founded by two guys (romulus, remus) razed by wolves ... maybe greek wolves?

Romulus and Remus were descendants of Aeneas. Aeneas founded a city in Southern Italy after his home city was destroyed.... by the Greeks. Aeneas was one of the defenders of Troy.

	27-07-2002 00:07									#39
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But they were razed by wolves, and don't dis that or my mum'll come and bight your legs off and nor at your toes!

	28-07-2002 10:46									#40
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I would like to see Canada with the Jean Chretien leaderhead.. I know he is a complete moron but it would be a good laugh.

MODERATOR ACTION: Haha! yeah Jean Chretien is an idiot.. but then again look at the morons on this forum.

	28-07-2002 11:42									#41
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Carthago delenda est!

Needed to be said.

	28-07-2002 11:43									#42
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BTW. Who is that guy with the maple leaf who posted before me? Must be an imposter. Can that be corrected?

	28-07-2002 18:32									#43
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change his title from king to general and everyones happy
many rulers have called themselves general, eg Franco.

	28-07-2002 19:38									#44
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf most is anglifized in civ3, which is a real shame. other wrong written leader names, here correct(er): jeanne d'arc mao zedong (wrong too, but nearer) iulius caesar katarina (the great) not to speak about all the cities. is too much expected to have "köln" instead of "cologne" or "münchen" instead of "munich"?

I'm not participating in this argument, but it's katerina (or ekaterina/yekaterina for extreme accuracy) not katarina

Most of these changes can be made in the editor btw

	29-07-2002 08:52									#45
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Firaxian idiocy, eh? Well...perhaps then it would make everyone be all the more pleased if they simply abandoned the Civilization series right now, then. The constant jumping of Firaxis for how it chooses to make the game is rather tiring. If you do not like how it's made, then don't buy it.