05-08-2002 06:25									#31
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um, so terms go by months and not game-turns?

	05-08-2002 06:48									#32
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Hang on. Good point... but as I suggested the first term, with only the Commissioner and A-Talent elected, should take a given time since we won't have the game played at all... considering a turn-based term system might be a good idea though.

	05-08-2002 11:26									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Crisler Greetings, I gree you all and pray are you enjoying peace in your life and blessings from our Mighty God and Savior. Fundementalist Faction

Why would I vote for a fundamentalist person? I am a scientists and a journalist, not a religious preacher.

(Maybe this question belongs in a presidential thread? Although we should hold off on the elections.....lets first get the game sorted out )

	05-08-2002 12:21									#34
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I'll throw my name in.

Personally, I don't like the idea of electing a Commissioner before a cabinet, and I'd prefer to see us follow the Civ2 example, but I'll stand anyway, because I'm already VP of the Civ2 game, and because I've got plenty of time on my hands at the moment.

Basically, I just want to get this up and running, make sure the people have input into every decision, and I'm not really interested in party loyalties.

And plus, this was my idea.

Last edited by Darkness' Edge on 05-08-2002 at 12:42

	05-08-2002 16:28									#35
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cool that number 4.......but how did civ2 did it than.......can you explain....maybe we all can learn from that....but I do not like the idea of copying it because it is a totally different game.

	05-08-2002 17:40									#36
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I know they're completely different games, I'm just referring to the basic workings of the game.

In the Civ2 game, the President and however many ministers are necessary, are all elected directly. The President plays the game, the Vice-President runs elections, and all the ministers poll the people on the right courses of action, which the President then plays out.

It's simple, and everyone has the greatest say. It also gives everyone a say in every poll. I find some of the ideas that have been suggested, such as having several tiers of council, with posts handpicked by the President, or having a seperate High Council, voting among themselves a little...silly...not to mention, evading part of the point of a democracy game.

	05-08-2002 18:30									#37
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i must agree with this plan now everone has something to say.
but the plan that ministers can act without polls has some thing that are ok the were elected to do something so maybe we could have a high counsel with small power

	05-08-2002 18:32									#38
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I agree with Darkness' Edge.

	05-08-2002 21:41									#39
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so its going to be as in civ2 but how long will everyone be in office? gameturns or realtime days?
EDIT:
I think 30 gameturns or one month in realtime this is for all the elected persons not only the commissioner

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	05-08-2002 22:59									#40
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quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword so its going to be as in civ2 but how long will everyone be in office? gameturns or realtime days? EDIT: I think 30 gameturns or one month in realtime this is for all the elected persons not only the commissioner

In the Civilization III democracy game, we do one month and find it to be effective.

30 gameturns would be waay too long to have someone be president.

	05-08-2002 23:01									#41
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ok

	06-08-2002 00:04									#42
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when will we stop accepting nominations? how about 5:00 GMT tuesday?

who's nominated so far? DBTS, Kass, Crisler, and Darkness' Edge?

	06-08-2002 00:07									#43
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Ade, while you're adding Darkness' Edge to the list of candidates, please remove me.

	06-08-2002 00:07									#44
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i taught more about wensday evening......

EDIT: kass why that?

	06-08-2002 00:37									#45
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I simply don't have the time. I'll be here every now and then spewing ideas and suggestions, though.

	06-08-2002 00:38									#46
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so 5:00 GMT wednesday?

	06-08-2002 00:46									#47
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ok by me

EDIT: how long will the elections take?

	06-08-2002 00:58									#48
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i think they had them running 2 days in civ. so the polls open on thursday or do we wait?

	06-08-2002 01:03									#49
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i think open the polls right there and then (wednesday) and have them open for 5 (?) days. then close and look what does everone think

	06-08-2002 01:10									#50
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5 days? maybe 3. thats plenty IMHO.

	06-08-2002 01:22									#51
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ok but as soon the game begins there have to be a new election for the commissioner (not for the ministers because they are just beginning)

I think there also has to be a rule that the same person can not be commissioner more than 2 times in a row....

so if he commissioner has been re-elected than next election he can not run for office ones more the election after than one he can run for office just as everone else. this why we will have many different commissioners (I hope) and that will keep the game more open to everyone (this applies on minister also)

what does everone think?

	06-08-2002 01:27									#52
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could you please mark the time zone you posting from to your posts, 'cos wednesday evening is in different time in Finland than in America.

my time is GMT +2 (EET).

	06-08-2002 01:29									#53
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all the posts are in GMT time

	06-08-2002 02:43									#54
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quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword all the posts are in GMT time

yees yees of course all post are in GMT, but do you mean wednesday evening GMT when you say wednesday evening?

	06-08-2002 02:50									#55
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polls should close at 8:00 GMT. if we go with 5:00, then at GMT-5, thats noon. if anyone's out west (-8 IIRC), then 5:00 sucks for them. the nomination for commissioner is ok to close at 5, since we've had a while, but polls should stay open later i think.

	06-08-2002 03:23									#56
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5:00 GMT??? Surely you mean 17:00?
I'm not sure if I can open the poll that early on Tuesday, perhaps 20:00 GMT.

And I'll be editing my first post to add Darkness' Edge and remove Kass

	06-08-2002 04:31									#57
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we use 12 hour clock in canada

	06-08-2002 04:41									#58
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Well, then at least add PM after that... it gets confusing so easily.

Actually, I often am more awake at 5am than5pm whenever it's holiday time

	06-08-2002 04:43									#59
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i'll just post in 24 hour from now on

	06-08-2002 08:09									#60
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I was going to pull out, but I think I'll stay in, just so to provide people with a choice.


even though I know I've got no chance