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The True Demosthenes is offline The True Demosthenes
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Turn 154 ==> Sophix

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Turn to Shavlor

Demos do not worry about the settler just south of Buto he is heading east to unclaimed land.

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Turn 155 to Demosthenes 9 hours ago.

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Turn 155 ==> Sophix

Gazing out across the beautiful land of Wales, Demosthenes noted that traversing from one end of this immense Kingdom to the other would take some goodly time indeed. When this point was put to Welsh engineers, they immediately set about a much quicker and efficient form of transport.

They returned to Demosthenes with a strange idea, of wooden planks supporting lines of iron, upon which steam wagons would rush to and fro, with great speed and efficiency.

"Truly a great moment in our history", spoke Demosthenes, "I feel that Railroads may well become very popular."

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Turn 155 --> Lung

Whats wrong with roads Demos

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Galileo, the great Australian legend, unveils his marvel of science, the 'telescope'. With this great wonder of the world, Galileo can gaze into the stars and unravel the secrets of the universe. Galileo, Steve Waugh the Legendary pronounces you "an Australian legend!"

Turn 156 to Demosthenes.

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Turn 156 ==> Sophix

Despite recent expansion and consolidation the Welsh nation is being caught up by the ever-copulating Egyptians, and the Wisdom of the Australians.

Wales believes that a new science drive should be launched, and further colonisation be sought. The WISE also advise the use of the newly found railroads to make this project more effiecient.

Therefore today Wales announces the Growth In Rural Lands and Science (GIRLS) Project, and hopes that this venture be a success.

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Turn 157 ==> Sophix

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I am withdrawing from the PBEM game. This is because I am extremely behind in tech and only have a few cities. I with play for 5 more turns. I promise you all I will not make any last minute attacks (mainly because pikemen w/o cannons can do squat)
I think the AI will not pose much of a threat. If anyone thinks they are real damn good then they can take my place and try to beat the others (Good Luck )
If Sophix, Lung, or Demos have any objection to me withdrawing then you should have killed me off . But seriously I can't win this game the most I can do is pester someone.
Good Luck to you all

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I think Shavlor's request is fair. He's been a good sport, and i think he deserves an honourable discharge. We can just set him to AI with a "no conquer" rule. The AI couldn't win, so there's no excuse for war except in self defence. In such case, perhaps a maximum of one city could be taken before peace must be offered to the AI. This should stop opportunists such as Demos and myself

Thanks for playing, Shavlor. You were an easy opponent Hehehe...

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Turn 158 --> Lung

Demos is still trying to convert my cities. he had two clerics near them. Lung how would you know I am a easy opponet you never made phyiscal contact with besides my wondering units and your ship of the line.

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Clerics there may be, but converting Roman cities they are not. The WISE take many forms in order to go about their business. Indeed, the WISE report that Egyptian priests are heading toward Brecon.....

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Ain't it always the way?! A 6-hour turnaround and i go AWOL for the first time in yonks Oh well, i'm at work now and my computer is in peices at home. No matter, i will play my turn in about 12 hours from now. Sorry, fellas.

Sorry, Shavlor. I just couldn't resist a parting shot

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Turn 159 to Demosthenes 12 hours ago...

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Ah yes Demos that cleric serve the same use as the cleric you spotted him with.

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Turn 159 ==> Sophix

I see that your intelligence services are as dilligent as my own.

Steve Waugh, although we see no need for an eco alliance at this stage, we have none the less agreed so as not to offend you. We do however, request that you depart from Sovereign Welsh territory. Unfortunately our Ambassador may well have put it in less savoury words.

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What, you mean my honourable warrior standing guard in the Great Waugh mountains?? He held his ground while watching Welsh settlers settle in the foothills, without so much as asking whether anyone already owned it. He sees no need to depart his post, and i see no need to order him otherwise.

As for the Eco Pact, this is for the disturbing pollution emanating from the Egytian cities to our environment's detriment.

Maybe you should lay off the beer a bit, Demos

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Forgive me, perhaps the beer is taking it's toll. We has all but assumed that the warrior in the mountains was a statue left by a long forgotten civilisation, it has been motionless for so long.

We were referring, as stated, to the Ship of the Line, disturbing the tranquil life of Welsh fishermen of the coast of Brecon.

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Oh, THAT unit! Maybe i should be the one laying off the beer . Sorry, some of my admirals just like going for a bit of a sail occasionally. Did he stop on some of your fishing nets or something? He has been told to stop disturbing the natives in your neck of the woods

BTW - where's the turn?

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Pollution? It seems that since other nations cannot hope to match the productive power of Egypt, they must whine about something which is of no consequence or concern.

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Earth to Shavlor! Where's the turn?? Sorry, i really hate to harrass you. Actually, i was wrong. I love harrassing you

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I guess Shavlor's five turns is up, or at least he considers it close enough to be.

Do we find a replacement, or just set him to AI? Personally, i don't think it's worth anyone's time to take over his civ, which doesn't have a hope in hell. Anyone good enough to make a comeback would almost certainly be in too many pbem games to take on another one. I vote that we just set him to AI and have some rules regarding terms of engagement. We should just consider Shavlor declared beaten and effectively dead. I propose that war cannot be declared on his civ unless his civ commits an act of war first. This should not include stealth units, but this is negotiable. In the event of war, peace must be taken when offered by the AI.

Otherwise, we could just make it a free-for-all on his civ, but that would decidedly advantage Demos. What do you guys think?? I'm sick of waiting on this game, but with three players left, we should be able to pick up the pace from here.

So here's the status now -

Demosthenes alive
Sophix alive
Shavlor dead - 4th
Lung alive
Burchill dead - 5th

Personally, i don't think Shavlor can complain too much as i started after him and therefore could be fairly considered to have had a poorer starting location

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Turn 159 --> Lung (Again ) I think I sent it to you before
Lung I am not even going to get involved in an argument about my starting land.
BTW: I told Sophix to AI me next turn, so Lung you will have to find someone else to make fun of . Good Luck to you all. becides the evil gaint Demos .
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Hahaha!!! It was fun, Shav The pleasure was all mine (and Demos')

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Turn 160 ==> Sophix

And we're back. So, what are we doing about the AI then? What are our restrictions, etc??

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Restrictions? There should be no legitimate way of conquering the Romans. Attacking Roman units should only be allowed in self-defence. I propose the rules for terms of engagement with the Romans as follows;-

Unit type.......Action..........Reaction
---------.......------..........--------
Stealth.........trespass........expulsion
................attack..........attack unit only
Military........trespass........attack only after stop trespass demand refused/ignored
................pirate/pillage..attack unit only
................attack..........capture city

In each case above, the reaction is the maximum allowed. The 'capture city' option can only be performed once, in order to induce a peace offering. If peace not requested by the Romans, it must be offered. In the event of peace being refused after the capture of a city, only trespassing units can be attacked. In the event of long-term repeated recalcitrant action by the Romans, blessing should be sought by the international community for increased action e.g. capturing another city. Stealth unit attacks should NOT be allowed, except spying in the event of war. Any stealth unit of yours attacked by the Romans within Roman territory cannot be avenged, regardless of whether your stealth unit made an attack or not. Existing conversions and slavings can remain, but if the Romans negate that effect, it cannot be re-engaged.

So there you have it. I am open to ideas, but i think the above is fair and just, just like me

Unless someone replies otherwise, i will assume that everyone accepts the rules as i stated above.

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I don't mind taking on the Romans if you guys want a human element...

Besides, I've had practice marshalling Roman forces - though I rather believe that I would be in a far worse position in this particular incarnation...
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