27-08-2002 22:43									#31
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TKG, you better trust Ming... he does the dirty job all the time, and knows better.

As for permament mods, nag Markos on the forum...

	27-08-2002 22:50									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Solver As for permament mods, nag Markos on the forum...

we do, but i don't think he reads it

	27-08-2002 22:53									#33
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He reads this forum though...

	28-08-2002 03:24									#34
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TKG,

most bulletin board software I have experienced don't decrease your PC for removed posts, so if 50 of your messages get removed, your PC won't be altered.

A BBS moderator.

	28-08-2002 03:46									#35
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quote: Originally posted by TKG Are you sure? my PC is now 808. when you go into my profile and click "search all posts by this user" it comes up with 810. i've never posted in the OT before () and i'm pretty sure i've never had a PCR (and if i did, who would give a PCR of 2?).

You may have posted in threads that had been moved to the OT without you noticing (even if the link was from and on-topic forum).

	28-08-2002 22:23									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ming NO... when a thread or post is deleted, it DOES NOT change your post count. Once you have posted, it counts. Unless you are given a PCR (post count reduction) by a mod, or the Data Base screws up, your post count never goes down.

Are you sure Ming?

That would mean that Makros has another hack on the forum. vBulletin does by defaoult reduce the post count when a post (or thread with posts) is deleted.

	28-08-2002 23:41									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Are you sure Ming? That would mean that Makros has another hack on the forum. vBulletin does by defaoult reduce the post count when a post (or thread with posts) is deleted.

Hmmm... I would be shocked and surprised if I'm wrong here. I've run tests on this when the question has been asked in the past. And the results showed that deleting posts or threads seemed to have no effect on a persons count. But then again... that doesn't prove absolutely that I'm right.

So I guess I will just leave the question up to Mark or Dan to answer. (time to run the tests again)

	29-08-2002 00:04									#38
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Is in past before or after the update to vBulleting in May last year?

	29-08-2002 00:20									#39
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Yeah, when did you run the tests? Also, you could delete a thread with several thousands posts in it and observe .

	29-08-2002 00:29									#40
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how about an entire forum? like OT, you could see if anybody has a post count after that...

	29-08-2002 00:58									#41
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I know for sure i had approximately 8 posts removed from my count after an entire thread about a civ3 crack was deleted because no one closed it early enough. This was about 3 days ago.

	29-08-2002 01:41									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Is in past before or after the update to vBulleting in May last year?

Good question... The last time this came up was a long time ago. So whether my tests were before the update or not... I have no clue. I will admit I haven't done it recently.

And Maquiladora... if this is indeed true, that's what you get for posting EIGHT TIMES in a thread about a Civ III Crack

Let that be a lesson to all the "plus oners" who try to sneak an extra post or two into a thread they KNOW will be deleted

	29-08-2002 03:02									#43
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I think that the ones who put +1 in there post have to be applauded for their bravery, and/or stupidity.

	29-08-2002 03:29									#44
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Hey i wasnt supporting the guy who wanted the crack and im not a post chaser like some of these freaks. Warlord sounds better than anythin else anyway

	29-08-2002 03:29									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I think that the ones who put +1 in there post have to be applauded for their bravery, and/or stupidity.

The only difference between this post and the ones that put +1 after the post, is that your plus one is in the middle of the message.

	29-08-2002 03:40									#46
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+1

Phew! You can even start a message with it. Isn't that amazing?

	29-08-2002 05:44									#47
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now now, stop spamming. i want to get to the bottom of this before Ming closes the thread

	29-08-2002 05:58									#48
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Yeah, I'd like to hear the results of Mings test before this thread is closed because of all you spammers.

	29-08-2002 06:01									#49
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Yeah you spammers, lets hear the results!

	29-08-2002 06:30									#50
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Surprise Surprise...
I just ran the identical tests that I did the last time, and this time the results were far different.

Yes... a deleted post subtracts one... and the same holds through for a deleted thread.

And what's even worse, if there are data base problems when doing the deleting, (which has been a problem lately when deleting a post or thread), you lose everything posted times the number of attempts the request for deleting has to be made before the data base excepts the request.

So after doing the test, I'm minus two posts.

But at least I get one back for posting the results

	29-08-2002 06:34									#51
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Now I'll never be a deity!

	29-08-2002 06:49									#52
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If a deleted post subtracts one, are we now allowed to delete our own posts?

	29-08-2002 06:50									#53
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud If a deleted post subtracts one, are we now allowed to delete our own posts?

No...

	29-08-2002 06:58									#54
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why? it makes logical sense...

we can't do this now.

quote: Originally posted by loinburger go to a rarely used forum (like Civ-Mac) and spam to their heart's content, delete their posts before a Mod notices, and make Deity overnight.

although i'm sure someone else has concocted some other scheme involving post-deletion.

	29-08-2002 07:08									#55
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To my knowledge, we don't allow people to delete threads for a different reason.

People could post stuff that totally violates the rules of the site... and then delete them later and claim they never posted anything. Even if you edit the post, there is still a post showing you did indeed post something

	29-08-2002 07:13									#56
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Argh!!

* Skanky Burns runs around, mourning the loss of his posts.

Thanks for letting us know, though.

	29-08-2002 07:15									#57
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Edit a post......still a post......showing you did post.......

	29-08-2002 07:16									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Surprise Surprise... I just ran the identical tests that I did the last time, and this time the results were far different. Yes... a deleted post subtracts one... and the same holds through for a deleted thread. And what's even worse, if there are data base problems when doing the deleting, (which has been a problem lately when deleting a post or thread), you lose everything posted times the number of attempts the request for deleting has to be made before the data base excepts the request. So after doing the test, I'm minus two posts. But at least I get one back for posting the results

Hah! That should put a chill into the hearts of the 'postia anti deletia' crowd.

	29-08-2002 07:20									#59
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Hah! That should put a chill into the hearts of the 'postia anti deletia' crowd.

It really should. Lately, it has taken me 4 or 5 requests before a thread is actually deleted. Just think, if you made 3 posts in such a thread, and it takes me 5 requests for the data base to accept my command... you lose 12 posts in the deal.

	29-08-2002 07:21									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Ming It really should. Lately, it has taken me 4 or 5 requests before a thread is actually deleted. Just think, if you made 3 posts in such a thread, and it takes me 5 requests for the data base to accept my command... you lose 12 posts in the deal.

Seems to me that you should lower PCRs to reflect this....