14-10-2002 03:11									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician but i would think off limits its a little boring, isnt it ?

Some think so. That's why there is the option. But, in my opinion, ruins add too much of a luck factor into the game. One can win a challenge match simply by being lucky with ruins in the beginning. Not much of a challenge match.

	14-10-2002 08:52									#92
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SuperLeague holds the same opinion, but SuperLeague 1 is a trial at best.

	14-10-2002 15:14									#93
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well, what fascinates me about strategy games like CTP is to have a strategy, then have chance interfere with the game and then adjust your strategy.
the interaction between human intelligence and random events is what i like most.

	14-10-2002 18:45									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician well, what fascinates me about strategy games like CTP is to have a strategy, then have chance interfere with the game and then adjust your strategy. the interaction between human intelligence and random events is what i like most.

Good point. But there are PLENTY of other luck factors in CTP, besides ruins, to create this environment you speak of. Ruins just seem to skew the results way too much -- at least in one vs. one games.

	14-10-2002 18:48									#95
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yes, but none of them are as much fun as ruins

	14-10-2002 18:55									#97
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oh and if someone could tell me how i can update from vs 1.1 to vs 1.2

	14-10-2002 19:12									#98
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or even better: how to make a completely new installed vs. 1.1 (?) of CTP internet multiplayer able

	15-10-2002 08:46									#99
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Re-install it

	15-10-2002 09:58									#100
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Mathemagician: go to the CtP page here in Apolyton and follow the links to files/downloads. All of the upgrades and patches are there, with instructions and recommendations. For multiplayer you will need an up to date servers.dat file, which I'll post here when I get home if I remember, or maybe someone else will in the meantime. Replace the existing servers.dat with the new one in the current location.

	15-10-2002 13:27									#101
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servers.dat - unzip to C:\Program Files\Activision\Civilization-Call To Power\ctp_program\ctp

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	15-10-2002 13:49									#102
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sorry. maybe i should have mentioned that i already installed servers.dat and downloaded the german 1.2 patch but it refused to do anything, as it said 'you dont have to run this file. its not meant for your version.' or something like that.

well, the same configurations do work at some computers (including my own). only at the computer(s) of a friend of mine it doesnt.

	15-10-2002 14:08									#103
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You've got me stumped... Blackice is good at that sort of stuff...

	15-10-2002 14:13									#104
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nevermind then.
play by email is fine for now.

	16-10-2002 08:22									#105
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Perhaps RC's English servers.dat isn't compatible with Math's German CtP. Mathemagician, contact Hatschy. I know he has a German version of CtP, so he could help you.

	16-10-2002 19:11									#106
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thanks people.

well, it seems that on my computer it works anyway, just not on the 2 computers of a friend of mine.
i will try to send him my servers.dat directly.

what does not work on my computer is to play an online game with another friend who has a copy of my Call to Power.
does anyone know anything about this ?
do we need all-different versions of Call to Power to meet in an online game ?

	17-10-2002 03:38									#107
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I'd reckon it would be some other problem. How's the latency ("ping") between you and your friend?

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i didnt know there was a ping 'between' two people.
i dont know what the ping between us is.

oh wait. we used to computers at a network which probably used the same internet connection. could that mean that the two IPs were identical and thus the server saw us as only one person ?

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Turn 1

	17-10-2002 19:30									#110
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Mathemagician vs. Hatschy
We are currently in turn 26.

	19-10-2002 02:26									#111
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berXpert... Have you reached the 4 X P.G. point in your game with Birdman? Please post it here when you finish. I'll update the ladder then.

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quote: us as only one person

Exactly

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quote: Originally posted by quinns berXpert... Have you reached the 4 X P.G. point in your game with Birdman? Please post it here when you finish. I'll update the ladder then.

I think I reach it... but when I review the JPG file with a ruler I was 3.79x PG, maybe 3 turns more 'cos I'm taking Bird's cities now

	19-10-2002 16:36									#114
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what is 4 x P.G. point ?

	19-10-2002 19:28									#115
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Berxbert is 4x higher in the power graph than Birdy.

	19-10-2002 20:07									#116
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Birdman's challenge 4 game finished.

He never reach my land, the fist strike was at turn 101 when I was at 1st turn as communist, 3rd city to fall was Madrid his capital.

Bird's science never reach Industrial Revolution, I was at 1 turn to get electricity and already modern.

Game end at turn 110

Check the graph, it is not 4x but Bird accept to finish now and start a new challenge.

I'm green (Mexico) he is blue (Spain)

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	19-10-2002 20:25									#117
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Congratulations berXpert! Well played. I will update the Challenge Ladder.

	19-10-2002 21:13									#118
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quote: Berxbert is 4x higher in the power graph than Birdy.

somehow i guessed that.
but how can you be as exact as 3.79 ?

	19-10-2002 22:49									#119
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Mathemagician vs. Hatschy.
Turn 41 sent to Hatschy

	20-10-2002 00:31									#120
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quote: but how can you be as exact as 3.79 ?

I don't know just guess