16-12-2002 22:16									#241
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I have an open slot now, Mathemagician. To make it official, I challenge you, NOW!! (So as not to violate the "challenge only three up" rule, I am challenging down. ) You can decline the challenge if you wish. But I strongly suggest that we play using the dual-duel format. It is the fairest. Choose whatever other settings you like, but dual-duel equalizes all.

	17-12-2002 04:13									#242
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na, i dont like dual duel as i stated before.
it just supports your aggressive military strategy too much quinns
thats not what i call 'equalizing' my friend

i will start the game and send you, then post the stats here.
but to compensate you for the loss of your favourite format, i will at least turn ruins off and wonders too if the latter doesnt crash your program like it did with shaved ape.
how do you turns wonders off then quinns ?
i just replaced the wonders.txt with a big 0.

	17-12-2002 04:55									#243
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okay here are the settings:

i just replaced the OBSOLETE_ADVANCE flag of all wonders except the wormhole sensor with toolmaking so none of them should be possible. if otherwise, please dont build.

diff: deity
barb: max
size: gigantic
poll: on
blood: off (only wonder allowed: wormhole sensor)
civs: 8 (so 6 AIs)

map settings (i swear i used a, though somewhat modified, random generator for them )

wet/dry 20%
warm/cold 90%
ocean/land 10%
island/continent 20%
uniform/diverse 100% (non-random, my standard)
goods 90%

i placed us in seat 5 and 8 respectively to not have any of us benefit from the river tendency of the early civs but to still have us somewhat distant from one another.

i hope this is all fine for you.
if not please tell me before looking at your first turn
or at least right away after

have fun

	17-12-2002 04:56									#244
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician na, i dont like dual duel as i stated before. it just supports your aggressive military strategy too much quinns thats not what i call 'equalizing' my friend

I see. Because we both would know the starting position of the enemy. Too true. I guess that does favor the militaristic. Oh well, I tried!

Blue definitely has, at least, a slight advantage over Orange though. No question about it. Sometimes it is more than "slight". Hence the attempt to equalize with the dual-duel...

No matter, though, Mathemagician. Go ahead with everything just the way you want it! It will be a good challenge.

	17-12-2002 05:01									#245
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I see that we cross posted. Okay then, fine. It looks like, (from the settings), that we will be playing on a bunch of desert-like islands. That's fine -- sounds like a NAVY game!

Good luck, Mathman, and thanks for setting it up!

	17-12-2002 05:02									#246
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quote: Originally posted by quinns I see. Because we both would know the starting position of the enemy. Too true. I guess that does favor the militaristic. Oh well, I tried!

tsetsetse

quote: Blue definitely has, at least, a slight advantage over Orange though. No question about it. Sometimes it is more than "slight". Hence the attempt to equalize with the dual-duel...

blue over orange even ?
i didnt know that.

but to compensate that we are now in pos 5 and 8.

quote: No matter, though, Mathemagician. Go ahead with everything just the way you want it! It will be a good challenge.

yes it will.

oh but you wouldnt call it cheating if first bought a UNIT then changed to a BUILDING like i accidentally once did in MP

	17-12-2002 05:44									#247
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician oh but you wouldnt call it cheating if first bought a UNIT then changed to a BUILDING like i accidentally once did in MP

Ummmm .... No, because you are losing money/prod there, not gaining it on the exchange. I would just call that .... a mistake!

	17-12-2002 06:39									#248
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Dang, Mathemagician, that's pretty decisive I'd say. What was the AI set on? Are you ready to defend your ranking? I'm calling you out

-David42one

	17-12-2002 08:08									#249
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A lot of new SuperLeague challenges are being issued. I'll get the news to you when the dust clears.

	17-12-2002 16:27									#250
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quote: Originally posted by david42one Dang, Mathemagician, that's pretty decisive I'd say. What was the AI set on? Are you ready to defend your ranking? I'm calling you out -David42one

what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think...
which AI ? in my game vs. quinns ? the positions ? or the difficulty ? well, we're deity and took pos 5 and 8 so the AIs are the rest or what do you mean ?

as for my ranking, well it could be better
hmm. im quite full of games for my tastes. i will answer that later on today if you dont mind...

c u

	17-12-2002 16:45									#251
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think... c u

Guess its about your victory screen shot you posted the 16th.

	17-12-2002 17:30									#252
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think... which AI ? in my game vs. quinns ? the positions ? or the difficulty ? well, we're deity and took pos 5 and 8 so the AIs are the rest or what do you mean ? as for my ranking, well it could be better hmm. im quite full of games for my tastes. i will answer that later on today if you dont mind... c u

Odd, when I posted that your screenshot was the last post. Anyway, that is what I was referring to, and of course you have time to think over my challenge

-David

	17-12-2002 18:33									#253
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quote: Originally posted by redbull A lot of new SuperLeague challenges are being issued. I'll get the news to you when the dust clears.

Okay, redbull. I'll update the ladder once you post them here.

	17-12-2002 18:34									#254
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Turn 1 to Math
Turn 17,18 to Bird
Turn 55,55 to Paulno1

	17-12-2002 19:02									#255
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quote: Originally posted by david42one Odd, when I posted that your screenshot was the last post. Anyway, that is what I was referring to, and of course you have time to think over my challenge -David

oh, then the AI was prince or king i assume. cant remember anymore. oh, ape set up the match i think. yes, that was it. ask him

as for your challenge. as long as you dont mind that my turns take 2 days sometimes (rarely it should be) i accept.
you can choose any settings you like, except the dual duel please
donut would be nice but i can live with earth world too.
as long as i get informed at the start of the game (and remember the settings later on :confused everything is okay for me.

though i like to play my own civ, the powerful Dornheimer, which requires me to start, its okay if you set it up. just give me the turkish then.

c u
rainer

	17-12-2002 19:07									#256
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oh, quinns.
maybe you could note in the first post in this thread how to turn wonders off. i could think of different ways though im not sure which one will actually work...

	17-12-2002 19:19									#257
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turns:

quinns - 1
interesting start i have. hope youre content too.
no wait. i hope youre not content.

BirdMan - 39
finally the turns get interesting...

Geoffrey - 74 (fun game only)
Ha ! giving up on wonders when your opponent starts to build them ? who does that ?
got pretty respect of me, huh ?

Hatschy - 157
this is the most interesting game i have, not only because its the furthest ladder game.
we're still close to each other in power graph. everyone got some advantages and disadvantages (dont want to say more). sure will stay interesting...

Becky - 220 (fun game only)
hmm..
i spend like 10.000 PW each turn, partly on changing grassland to plains that says all.
well, my genetically altered cattle doesnt need grass anymore i guess.
besides, they're going to my space colonies now anyways.
oh i think Becky recently discovered the wheel. thumbs up.

Taladas game, the second:
delete that, quinns, in case you counted it for the ladder. i doubt Taladas will play CTP games anymore. at least not for a while.
by then, he will certainly have forgotten of our running game.

	17-12-2002 19:39									#258
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician oh, quinns. maybe you could note in the first post in this thread how to turn wonders off. i could think of different ways though im not sure which one will actually work...

Thanks Math. But I'll wait to see if it works, completely, first before noting it in the first post of this thread. The turn 0 you sent me was named "UNKNOWN_PARAMETER_VALUE" with no extension. I had to add the ".csg" to the end of it, then it opened fine. But that isn't a good sign... Maybe that "wonders off" modification caused it. Do you know?

	18-12-2002 00:23									#259
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hmm i had similar problems before quinns, without wonders modifications.
the file got stupid extension and names. i had this with a friend of mine and with birdman.
dunno what it is. i can just say that the file was named correctly when i sent it, so it shouldnt have to do with the mods. i hope

	18-12-2002 01:39									#260
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician hmm i had similar problems before quinns, without wonders modifications. the file got stupid extension and names. i had this with a friend of mine and with birdman. dunno what it is. i can just say that the file was named correctly when i sent it, so it shouldnt have to do with the mods. i hope

My guess then is that your email server is CHANGING the name of your attachment somewhere in transit from you to us.

Ummm... You didn't answer my question. Do you have a river or not?

	18-12-2002 01:44									#261
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quote: Originally posted by quinns My guess then is that your email server is CHANGING the name of your attachment somewhere in transit from you to us.

damnit

quote: Ummm... You didn't answer my question. Do you have a river or not?

did u ask that ? where ?
anyway. i wont tell. or at least not truthfully
sure i have a river. what did you think ?

	18-12-2002 01:52									#262
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician did u ask that ? where ? anyway. i wont tell. or at least not truthfully sure i have a river. what did you think ?

Oh... I see... SO DO I THEN!

	18-12-2002 06:56									#263
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Ok Mathemagician, I have sent you turn zero.

-ModLite
-Map stats in the middle
-4 total civs, set on deity
-Pollution and Bloodlust on
-Standard size map

I think that's it, good luck! Oh, and if the starting position is awful, let me know we can start over.

-David42one

	18-12-2002 07:00									#264
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quote: Originally posted by david42one Ok Mathemagician, I have sent you turn zero. -ModLite -Map stats in the middle -4 total civs, set on deity -Pollution and Bloodlust on

bloodlust on ? well okay.
MODLITE ?? oh well. alright !

quote: -Standard size map I think that's it, good luck! Oh, and if the starting position is awful, let me know we can start over. -David42one

i wouldnt start over if i had a bad start...

	18-12-2002 21:04									#265
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quote: Originally posted by david42one Ok Mathemagician, I have sent you turn zero. -David42one

err. i havent received turn zero yet...
did you send to mathemagician@gmx.de ?

	19-12-2002 05:11									#266
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician err. i havent received turn zero yet... did you send to mathemagician@gmx.de ?

Thought I did, I just resent it

	20-12-2002 00:22									#267
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Math, I think your having trouble with your email on your end. I sent my turn 3 to you on Tuesday and I don't think you got that one either.

Last edited by quinns on 20-12-2002 at 00:29

	20-12-2002 01:32									#268
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Wrong post

	21-12-2002 05:35									#269
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Updated.

	21-12-2002 06:01									#270
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Wrong thread. Ignore this.