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Capt Dizle is offline Capt Dizle
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Sep 1999
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Is there any irony in the fact that Ming rules this forum with an iron fist but goes off duty at Counterglow where he spams, posts off topic, and insults everyone?

Or would it be ironic if that Ming is not the Counterglow Ming and our Ming read this post and banned me?

Or would it be ironic if Ming showed up at another forum and one of his victims here was a mod there and got out the ax?

I think this is above my head.

CyberGnu is offline CyberGnu
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It would be ironic if Ming banned every one on the OT because we make apolyton look bad.... Only to have the sponsors drop apolyton due to low usage numbers.

Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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Mar 1999
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  Old Post 27-08-2002 10:34
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People always said that it would be the perfect irony if i ended up being gay and married a handicapped jewish man lol

Anyway, Che...

Now thats what i'm talking about. It's always the weaklings who are anarchists! they could at least be libertarians where they'd have some sort of protections. stupid anarchists


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DaShi is offline DaShi
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Sep 2000
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  Old Post 27-08-2002 18:42
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Umm, not quite...

Only when your actions actually cause the very event they were supposed to prevent.

Like being so nervous about keeping the exact speed to avoid a ticket that you instead run a red light and get a ticket for that...

Or in the example you quoted, replace 'pay for your moms operation' with 'pay for a plane ticket to see your mom' and 'died of heartattack' with 'forbad you from ever visiting'.

Non-ironically, it is not even ironic that most of the examples in the thread 'definition of irony' aren't ironic either...


Ah. I think I get it. Like when a guy builds a bomb shelter to protect himself from nuclear weapons and puts a microwave in there.

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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  Old Post 27-08-2002 18:46
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That's more moronic than ironic.

Dauphin is offline Dauphin
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  Old Post 27-08-2002 22:27
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To me an example of irony is being late for a meeting on traffic management policy because you were stuck in traffic.

And Cyber, with regards the song in fact being ironic, I think you give her (or her songwriter) too much credit.

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I was almost run over by an ambulance. That would have been terrible(and Ironic).

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Why? If you called the ambulance to take you to the hospital after injuring yourself...........that would be ironic.

chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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Man, you people have no interesting stories.

Dr. Nick is offline Dr. Nick
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  Old Post 27-08-2002 23:48
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Yeah, but nothing ever happens here. I live in the middle of nowhere, for god's sake.

Kepler is offline Kepler
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I was in a checkout line at school many years ago, and three consecutive people were wearing buttons which read "why be normal?"

Rex Little is offline Rex Little
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From my own life, a couple of examples of happy irony:

1. Five years ago, I took a new job which was too far from where I lived to stay there. We found a new place closer to the job (still a 45-minute commute, but a nice house in a nice neighborhood) and put an offer down on it. However, we made the offer contingent on selling our old house.

Weeks went by and the house hadn't sold. We had to either drop our offer or buy the house without selling our old one. We dropped the offer. We found another house in the same neighborhood and made a contingent offer on it. Same thing happened; weeks later our house hadn't sold and we dropped the offer.

At this point I decided to quit looking until we'd at least gotten an acceptable offer on our house. But my wife kept looking, and one day she spotted a great deal. Compared to the houses we'd given up, this one was half the distance to work, quite a bit larger, and was on sale at a bargain price because the owners had already moved out of state and were anxious to sell. Total cost of ownership was, if anything, a little less than the others. We decided to buy without a contingency, and a month later our old house sold.

So there's the irony: if we'd gotten what we originally wanted--a quick sale of our old house--we'd be stuck in a smaller, more expensive house with a longer commute. And less resale value, too; this one has shot up like a dot-com stock in 1999.

2. When we were moving here, the movers we hired underestimated the load and we had to rent an extra truck for them. By the time the move was complete it was night; too late for them to take the truck back. I agreed to drive it back the next morning.

When I got in and started it up, I realized I'd bitten off more than I could handle. I'm used to driving little cars, and this thing was huge; any bigger and I'd have needed a trucker's license. I somehow managed to maneuver it down the street and onto the freeway, but I was looking at another 50 miles to the U-Haul office. I wasn't at all sure I could do it. I seriously considered pulling over, abandoning the truck and giving up my $300 deposit.

But just then, the engine made some nasty noises and died. I pulled over, called U-Haul, and they sent a mechanic. He looked at the engine and informed me that it had thrown a rod. So they just closed out the rental and took me home.

When your vehicle breaks down on the freeway and that's the best thing that could happen, I'd call that irony.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Irony Che?

Leftists who demand the US intervene somewhere when most US interventions have been disasters.

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Irony, not snideness, Chris. (You're talking about the Euroliberals, right?)

I have a new irony. A tanning salon named Beauty Within.

loinburger is offline loinburger
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I dunno, that might only count as irony if you developed a brain tumor from visiting said tanning salon...

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So taking a shortcut to where you want to go to avoid being late but ends up taking more time is an irony?

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Urban, right on

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It also has to have a certain amount of humour about it.

UR's example lacks that.

Dauphin is offline Dauphin
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There is also another class of irony...

Such as winning a lifetimes supply of beer after declaring yourself tee-total.

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I have to agree. The definition given earlier is I'm sure correct, but very narrow. Some of the stories here are ironic in a sense, even if they don't conform to said definition.

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How about a death row pardon 2 minutes too late. When you're on death row for killing the dude who usually delivers the pardons.

As for rain on you're wedding day I don't see anyway that that could be ironic.

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It also has to have a certain amount of humour about it.

UR's example lacks that.


Humour is subjective though.

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Humour is subjective though.


But subjectivity is objective!

Lars-E is offline Lars-E
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  Old Post 29-08-2002 18:01
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I'm sure Kierkegaard defines irony in his dissertation "On the Concept of Irony with constant reference to Socrates". Wold be interesting to know what it was.

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lol this sounds like an Ed Burns routine.

"Rain on your wedding day?..... no thats not ironic. Maybe if you're marrying a weatherman and you let him pick the day."


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Saw this one while running errands this morning

"Another Bush, Another Recession"

On the back of a brand new Lexus SUV

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irony: your ex bf doesn't start loving you till you're with someone else and in love with them

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That's not ironic behavior, that's male behavior.

 
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