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quinns is offline quinns
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Oct 2000
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Alright Solver, but you will have to "next" him as you are before him. Unless you mean for me to mark him as delinquent on the ratings.

I know I've asked you this before, but I forgot what your reason was... Would you mind posting that you have sent your turn? Please? You are about the only player who sometimes doesn't do this, so it leaves us wondering where the turn is, so then I have to post again to ask where the turn is! You mentioned that it sometimes takes 10 minutes to post to this forum. Is that still true?

Sorry to be a pest, but it has happened often. I know that YOU know that you sent the turn, but the rest of us don't know. So, in the case where Aaginor was truly present and the mail was lost, he would just think that you didn't send it yet and he would be waiting for you and we would be waiting for Aaginor and then I have to POST TO THIS DAMN FORUM TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING!!


[This message has been edited by quinns (edited December 13, 2000).]

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Sorry, it happened due to me not posting, yes, but I thought I mailed you saying turn to Aaginor. I will try to never allow this again, sorry .

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Better resend, no turn at me this time.

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Oct 2000
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Post  Old Post 14-12-2000 19:24
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Turn to Solver resent.

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Got it this time.
No, it seems the island isn't almost explored, found something else. Even though I would like some ruins as well.
Turn to Aaginor.

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Apr 2000
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Post  Old Post 16-12-2000 20:36
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(turn to mustansir@telocity.com)

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Oct 2000
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Uh oh! Aaginor was delinquent (over 24 hours)! Shame on you Aaginor . I hate marking people delinquent! No "nexting" involved but -0.1 in his ratings . COME ON AAGINOR, YOU WERE THE LEADER AT ONE TIME... YOUR RATINGS ARE SLIPPING!!

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Turn -> Kralj

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Yep, he was an Alphabet leader.

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Nov 2000
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Turn 11 > Quinns

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Turn 12 to Solver --

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Turn to Aaginor, quinns please read my email message.

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(turn to mustansir@telocity.com as commanded by Solver )

I am fast, ain't I?
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Turn -> Kralj

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Yeah. I wish everyone was as fast as you.

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Lightning Turn!

Turn 13 to Solver ---

edit: I think this must set a record! Less than five hours from player 1 back to player 1 for one complete 5 player turn!!

[This message has been edited by quinns (edited December 18, 2000).]

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Shame I made it so long after that, but yet a less than 24 hours turnaround.
Timezones...

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(turn > mustansir@telocity.com)

Well, looks like we are going for a new High Speed High Score

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Turn -> Kralj

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Yeah I think everyone is on steroid now.

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Go ahead!

And if possible - pls push on in our other games

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What, in the world, are you talking about Birdman !

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I think he was really jealous so he just came in and mumbled something to slow us down...

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Turn > Quinns

Can somebody explain me how is power graph calculated?

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Quinns had posted a nice explanation on the powergraph in some thread (it was quinns wasn't it???). Basically the powergraph represents production points and population sitting around. Tile improvements dont count. Simply put. More the cities you have, more the units and city improvements you have the better your powergraph.. or something like that anyway. But be careful Kralj, sometimes if you stay too busy keeping a high powergraph you'd end up loosing the game.

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Oct 2000
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Turn 14 to Solver ---

Yes, it was I who wrote about the Power Graph. It was called "Power Graph Interpreted" back in late November or early December, and it's fairly accurate.

Of course, Kralj, don't worry about losing the game... you should only care about the POWER GRAPH as it is the only thing the all powerful RATINGS are based upon .

You don't get any BONUS points for "winning" the game, only for the highest power graph at the 9th turn mark.

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But isn't that kind of wierd? the winner of the game has to be the most powerful right? We are trying to rate the skill of players (atleast approximately). Shouldn't winning a game flat out give a person say a 5 point bonus??

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That's a good question Thor, so let's talk about the idea of "winning" in Civilization.

A player can theoretically "win" in "Civilization - Call to Power" by stockpiling up a bunch of nukes, telling lies to everybody, then waiting until they all have their guard down, and then nuke every enemy unit off the face of the Earth. "Nice win! You lied to us real good and completely destroyed the Earth! Nice Civilization playing. Great strategy. You should get a five point increase in your ratings for your superior and 'civilized' method."

Why does someone have to "win" in Civilization. I know it is a game, and someone should win, but we kind of take care of that now with the multiple winner at the ...9 turn mark.

See my below yakking on the AC-Multiplayer -- Ladders thread.

Begin quote from Alpha Centauri thread (trying to convince them to go to a rating system similar to CTP Ratings) :

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White Elephants - Regarding length of CTP Games - Well, I know of one game that is well over 200 turns right
now. I think the only reason a game really "ends" is because players lose interest, or one player gets a
substantial lead and it becomes just a long, tedious mop up job to "conquer" the rest of the civilizations.

One of the good points of the rating system is that it actually encourages players to stay in the game, and
encourages the game leader "not to destroy" the rest of the nations, but just to stay in the lead (but not by
too much) so that the leader's ratings will continue to increase at the ten turn mark and the other players will
stay in, in the hopes of gaining the lead themselves, while still gaining ratings points for being ahead of the
others in the game. For once the game ends, the ratings no longer change. There is no "bonus" for ending the
game, (just as there is no bonus for ending the "real" world )
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-------------- End quote from Alpha Centauri thread.

I'm going to post this on a new thread called "Winning?" to see what kind of reaction I get. Thanks for bringing it up!


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Thor, we are rating the way you play, too. To win, you need to produce units and buildings (no doubt). They all cost production, and the production points are what imporve your powergraph (see Quinn's post for more).
Thus, if you have an army that's 2 x larger than any other on the planet, you will be top on the rankings list, and thus gain the ratings points.
As for the game - turn to Aaginor. Moreover, good news are here - next turn (which I hope will be tomorrow), the first ship on this water planet will leave my docks. It will come to provide the room for expansion, as there's not much room left. And, I don't like being almost at the South Pole - quite cold places to be seen here and there.

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Correction: my mail to Aaginor has been sent back, it says Mailbox quota exceeded (mailbox voll). Aaginor, please erase the email from the server, it's enough to keep them on your hard drive, then I'll resend.

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The full Mailbox was caused by a large MP3 file, which was dwelling for 4 days on the server. I always delete the received mails, so there shoul be no further problems.
If still problems, contact me via ICQ ...

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I will be resending the turn to Aaginor today then.

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