30-08-2002 02:45									#61
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1st year Industrial Engineer:

Mathematics
IT
Physics
Chemistry
Mechanics
Electricity
Economy


Or:

Worker:

Putting boxes out of truck
Putting boxes into truck

(I haven't decided yet)

	30-08-2002 02:45									#62
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If you complete three years you have the B.Sc qualification. The extra year is a conversion to a M.Sci.

If you fail the conversion you get the degree that you earnt.

You can choose just to do a B.Sc to start with.

	30-08-2002 02:48									#63
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quote: And I find it odd that it generally takes one year to get a masters

Why?

A post-grad degree is different to a Masters degree.

List of courses, 4 year M, 3 year B at Imperial College

I think terminology is just different, giving rise to the confusion.

	30-08-2002 02:56									#64
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So it looks like they're not quite the same thing, then.

The graduate degree is the Masters here, anything after that is a Doctorate.

Undergrad degrees (4 years) are the most common by far.

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NM

	30-08-2002 03:00									#66
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Intelligent Systems
Advanced Digital Systems
Computer Networks and Internets

	30-08-2002 03:02									#67
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Big Crunch , do/did you study in that place ?

	30-08-2002 03:05									#68
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Yep. Graduated in the class of 2000.

	30-08-2002 03:18									#69
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Looks like the sort of place that I am going to .
As who did you graduate ? ( I am not sure what is the appropriate figure of speech )

	30-08-2002 03:21									#70
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quote: ( I am not sure what is the appropriate figure of speech )

"What degree did you graduate with?"

	30-08-2002 03:24									#71
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Thanks.

	30-08-2002 03:24									#72
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No, because you can't end a sentence with a preposition, and isn't "with" a preposition?

I would say "With what degree did you graduate?"

	30-08-2002 03:27									#73
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Bah, dirty liberal artsy folk.

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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Bah, dirty liberal artsy folk.

	30-08-2002 03:34									#75
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That's me

	30-08-2002 03:45									#76
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You're a government major, right?

	30-08-2002 03:46									#77
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Yup...only 3 hours of math for me

But 12 hours of natural science *grumble grumble*

	30-08-2002 04:17									#79
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I'm in 11th grade this year and I'm taking:

Chemistry 11*
Consumer Math 11*
Foods 11*
World History
U.S. Government*
English 11
Spanish 11*

*=electable courses

When I get to college I'm thinking of majoring in paleontology, zoology, or botany

	30-08-2002 04:48									#80
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PHYS 601 Theoretical Dynamics
PHYS 604 Methods of Mathematical Physics (thinking about dropping this (the Prof is bad and I have had most or all of the math) and picking up another math class)
PHYS 622 Introduction to Quantum Mechanics I

A standard First year graduate course in physics (some don't take the quantum if they are a little weak on it)

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	30-08-2002 11:33									#81
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Writing for the Popular Market
Intermediate Yoga
Constitutional Government

alas..i was forced by my university to give up the horn this year...i'm..kinda upset about it...they didn't want me cause in symphonic band alone they had nine majors..they didn't want a 10th horn. kinda sad..i nearly mad it to a decade...

	30-08-2002 23:18									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Looks like the sort of place that I am going to . As who did you graduate ? ( I am not sure what is the appropriate figure of speech )

Physics B.Sc, first class.

Additonally I get to put the letter ARCS after my name, but they are just for making me look important and have no real value.

Hopefully I will get even more letters after my name by the end of next year when I finish my current qualifications.

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quote: Originally posted by devilmunchkin alas..i was forced by my university to give up the horn this year...i'm..kinda upset about it...they didn't want me cause in symphonic band alone they had nine majors..they didn't want a 10th horn. kinda sad..i nearly mad it to a decade...

Check to see if there's a civic band/orchestra in the area. A friend of mine plays piano, but the university's orchestra didn't need a second piano player. Turns out there was a civic orchestra that needed a piano player and snatched her right up.

	30-08-2002 23:49									#84
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To all: For comparability sake, it would be nice if you state the country you are studying in when you talk about degrees like BSc.

quote: alas..i was forced by my university to give up the horn this year...i'm..kinda upset about it...they didn't want me cause in symphonic band alone they had nine majors..they didn't want a 10th horn. kinda sad..i nearly mad it to a decade...

Start singing Most choirs welcome good singers (ok, that's easy for me, I'm tenor).
And if it helps you to feel well against the horn majors:
A friend of mine had an audition with a horn professor. He played, and the professor looked at his school certificates. Then the professor asked: "I could take you, you play well enough. But you've got quite good marks in most of the subjects. Why the heck do you want to learn horn?" My friend was well amazed, studied physics, and later was happy about this advice.

	30-08-2002 23:54									#85
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quote: (ok, that's easy for me, I'm tenor).

Really? We had a glut of tenors, and hardly any basses. I guess I'd assumed that most choirs had the same issue.

	31-08-2002 00:01									#86
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In most choirs I've been into, there were more basses. Maybe you've sung in a very young choir, where the males didn't yet fully develop their bass voice (which comes at an age of 25-30). Conductors who don't know the voice too well put them into tenor (unfortunately me, too). After what I do know now, a young male should first sing bass and skip over the notes which are too deep for him, and go up after two or three years if he is really a tenor.
But apart of that, most are simply lazy, and bass is easier to sing. Real basses an real tenors are likewise rare.

	31-08-2002 00:06									#87
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quote: But apart of that, most are simply lazy, and bass is easier to sing.

Ha. Just sing a low D for thirty seconds and tell me how easy it was for you. (That's the horror I had to put up with every day thanks to Mr. Rachmaninov...)

	31-08-2002 00:33									#88
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loinburger, still, you get the D or you don't. (I don't except I've had 4 litres of beer and three hours of sleep afterwards). Lacking either voice or technique, singing constantly above c' is a real pain, and this is what tenor quite often does. And holding an e' for 30 seconds as written by Stravinsky is also a hard for those with a better technique. Esp. if the conductor repeats this five times.

We should start a new thread if you want to continue this topic

	31-08-2002 11:48									#89
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quote: Start singing

eww...no..i can't sing well. and it's not my major at all..writing is. but i've kept playing cause i love music and it was a great release...i think i might focus more on my writing..try to get some stuff published for m oney so i have a small amount to help get me started when i graduate

	31-08-2002 11:58									#90
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quote: eww...no..i can't sing well.

Usually that's not quite true, in the sense that the voice is horrible misformed, and a good teacher even can do a lot about the latter. I meant singing for release (that's what I'm doing) and not as a profession.