12-12-2000 05:02									#151
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(turn to mustansir@telocity.com)

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Greetings to the assyrians.
We get your words of peace and cooperation and we are looking forward to see these words come true. We are always willing to buy goods, so if you have to spare any, we will probably are able to make a deal that suits booth of us.
Also, we want you to know, that you do not have to fear anything from our exploring units. Yes, they carry weapons, but this is to defend themselfs. We won't start any aggresive act against you, as long as you will keep peace yourself.
As soon as we come in range of one of your cities, we will draw back this troops, I promise. Of course, we except you to do the same, when one of your units come close to one of our cities.

Aaginor, King of the Inca

	12-12-2000 06:09									#152
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Turn -> BirdMan

	12-12-2000 10:33									#153
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Turn to DonCarne of the Mexicans.

Urgent message to leaders of the world: Babarian activity spottet. A messenger has informed me, that one of my diplomats were brutally killed yesterday in the southwest of land, known to the russians.

Pls activate citydefenses.

Ivan.

	12-12-2000 19:11									#154
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Even though Franses isn't a rated player, why not become a one? We don't disallow new rated players, unless a very serious reason is present.

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	13-12-2000 00:24									#155
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My regard for Franses are VERY high. I just don't want to press him. That's all.
[This message has been edited by TheBirdMan (edited December 12, 2000).]

	14-12-2000 01:27									#156
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Turn 21 -> Franses

Hmmm, the powergraph isn't too happy about me filling in for Creator ;P

	14-12-2000 02:00									#157
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Some turns nexted do make a big difference in the start - and that's what has happended to Creator.


My suggestion is, when you meet one (or preferable two or three) others - make an undefined treaty with them. Undefines is: no peace, no alliance but some diplomacy. How much is up to you.

Keep close to "someone" if possible in the start.
[This message has been edited by TheBirdMan (edited December 14, 2000).]

	14-12-2000 14:28									#158
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The Egyptians finally found the water needed to expand their empire.
Franses appears to be a bit overwhelmed lately. The older he gets, the faster time seems to evolve. He hardly has any time left to look after his harem. But... he loves ruling and is willing to give up some (not to much) pleasures for it.

He, I have not been here for a while. Sorry. I understand that you want to rank this game and that you can only do that if I do something. Don't worry, I will if you want me to. Just tell me what to do. If you want me to do it fast, mail me.

Franses

PS: Thank you Birdman for your respect. I appreciate that. Lets hope we meet somewhere in this, what looks like an empty world to the Egyptians.

	14-12-2000 23:09									#159
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Yeah, yeah, rate this one! I can use the points ...

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Message to the assyrian leader:

One of our expolring units stumbled upon a town of yours. I instantly changed their commands and they will leave in the next days.

Aaginor, King of the Inca

	14-12-2000 23:59									#160
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Fellas, if you rate this game I will have to resign.

Look, my island is pathetic. Its swamp and ice. I have 6 settlers running around from the start of the game that I wasn't able to find place for. The only reason I've kept playing my turn is because it takes 5 minutes and I know you'd rather have a weak nation playing chinese than an AI.

I dont know which rated player would want to sub for me. But whoever it is, would probably not care much about his/her rating points.

Anyway. Its up to you guys to decide.

	15-12-2000 00:17									#161
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IF your situation are total useless, you have to decide yourself.

You know how to do this, chat-mode and attach your number.

I do understand why you resist - but if a new game was started as a rated game - you could easily be in the same position.

I have agreed, that Monkey 2 could be rated. And I have only 2 cities left - and technology stage, where I was happy just to get engineering from the americans, while all my cities was destroyed/conquered by the dutch (Paul) with tanks and warwalkers!

I would have taken your challenge if I wasn't in the game already.

	15-12-2000 00:20									#162
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No, no, no, King Thor! You don't have to resign, you can just state that "you don't want this game to be rated FOR YOU". There are enough rated players playing this game to be considered a rated game. You can keep playing without worrying about your rating. That's one of the good things about this system. If you start to lose bad, you can just bow out of the ratings at the 10 turn mark, but continue on playing (without being rated)!! (The ten turn mark is key. Once you decide to make it rated, you can't bow out until the NEXT ten turn mark.)

Edit: This 'bow out' rule might be modified if we use the "elimination" rule that we are discussing in the "Winning in Civilization?" thread.
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited December 20, 2000).]

	15-12-2000 00:32									#163
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Turn to Krash - agree to Quinns (it ok, but you may still rate me in Monkey 2 if sufficient players agree - I am insane as someone stated a while ago ).

As for this game - all quiet. Only stubling into mexicans cities all the time....

And that little mexican woman, I saw a painting of her carried home by one of my diplomats - it seems to be so many years ago - but still, I simply can't to any harm to her people .

Edit: Krash, thanks for sending the turn to the right player (DonCarne)


[This message has been edited by TheBirdMan (edited December 15, 2000).]

	21-12-2000 04:47									#164
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Where is the turn anyway?

I have some trouble getting onto my smtp server. I'll fix it as soon as have possible. Please be patient

Notuna

	21-12-2000 23:29									#165
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Does anybody know where the turn is. Haven't seen it for more then a week now. Same, by the way, is true for Midway. Is the same person gone?

Franses

	22-12-2000 00:18									#166
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Not sure - but a guess would be Aaginor.

	22-12-2000 13:32									#167
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I received a mail error (mailbox full) when trying to reach Aaginor so there seems to be something definitely wrong. Hope it will be solved soon. Untill then I will next Aaginor untill he comes back in the game.

Franses

	22-12-2000 15:09									#168
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Well Lets see if we can get this game moving again.

Turn -> BirdMan

	23-12-2000 11:41									#169
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Turn to DonCarne/Stavros.

Beware - now there are 4 small babarians loose in the south.

	24-12-2000 21:50									#170
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What is wrong with those damn ISP around the world?

Well, in my case it could be caused by a large mp3-File sent to me by a friend. What makes wonder is, that he send me the file on monday, but I recieved it on thursday, although I checked my mail each day. What was this damn file doing those 4 days?
Well, now my Mailbox should be free again for the turns If the mails bounce anyway, try to send it to frank@vogt-services.de

Aaginor

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	01-01-2001 21:59									#171
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*bump*

Stavros

	02-01-2001 15:01									#172
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Sorry for not checking the posts... I sent the turn 22 on the 23rd to max.reiff@lyngbyes.dk

	02-01-2001 17:26									#173
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Stavros: Send the turn to Notuncommon - not me (I don't have the turn anyway, just checked it)

	07-01-2001 19:21									#174
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Is our bird dead? Did he fly to the south because of the cold weather or what?

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	07-01-2001 20:26									#175
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No - not at all

I got turn 22 from king Thor the 22. december.

Played the turn the 23. december and forwarded it to Stavros.


Then Stavros wrote 2.january 2000: Sorry for not checking the posts... I sent the turn 22 on the 23rd to max.reiff@lyngbyes.dk

And I replied: Stavros: Send the turn to Notuncommon - not me (I don't have the turn anyway, just checked it)


I should not get turn 22 back from Stavros.

Leaving the game at this: Stavros should send turn 22 to Notuncommon...... as he is replacement for Creator.
[This message has been edited by TheBirdMan (edited January 07, 2001).]

	11-01-2001 12:40									#176
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Something has to be done here.

When I am back home, I will resend turn 22 "normal" and a turn 22 with Stavros nexted to both Stavros and Notuncommon.

Then we will see what will happend

	11-01-2001 14:45									#177
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Yes... please resend turn 22... it's disapeared somewhere then I'll send to notuncommon

	11-01-2001 20:55									#178
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Done some hours ago.

	11-01-2001 21:57									#179
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OK... onto NotUncommon (at last)

	13-01-2001 06:12									#180
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Turn 22 -> frans

Ruthles barbarians have killed my exploring diplomats in the east! How rude.

Notuncommon