04-09-2002 15:41									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov You're joking, right? The Nazis referred to Deutschland as the Fatherland, and you're a fascist like them. Russia was always "Mother Russia"

Actually it was also called "The Fatherland" until WWII.

	04-09-2002 15:57									#62
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Are you sure that Rodina had always been 'the Fatherland' until 1941?

	04-09-2002 16:49									#63
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That's what I have heard from several sources. Stalin changed it to contrast Russia from Germany according to them.

Rodina IIRC means birthplace. Otchizna means father-place. Both are feminine nouns interestingly. Neither translates exactly as motherland or fatherland, and they are not exactly opposites. Anyway, it looks like both terms are used pretty regularly, and to be honest I am not aware of what the subtle and not so subtle differences are in usage. Any help from a native speaker of Russian?

	04-09-2002 18:52									#64
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Maybe the new name could be "We Love The King Day".

	04-09-2002 19:16									#65
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this is what'll happen, because americans don't like to remember~

20 years from now, somebody will say something, threaten to sue. they'll change the name to something unoffensive, like: "Day of Remembrance" or "World Peace Day" or some such.

40 years from now, it'll become yet another one of those somewhat ignored federal holidays which always occur on mondays-- school lets out, federal bureaus shut down, etc.

60 years from now, it'll be one of those three-day weekend sales blasts that the department stores like sears, macys, dilliard's, riches, etc., all have such a ball with.

god bless the usa, no? we all want to remember, but we really don't.

	04-09-2002 21:32									#66
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Blame-Gays-for-Terrorist-Attack Day

	04-09-2002 21:45									#67
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"USA is the greatest nation that ever was Day". Oh wait, that's July 4th. No, sorry, that's actually every day...

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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Blame-Gays-for-Terrorist-Attack Day

Now, now, you can't go taking all the credit. It was liberals and feminists too.

I think they've got the Godly Veil of Protection back up now, but only over parts of the South and Orange County.

	04-09-2002 21:52									#69
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Nah I also heard that strikes are very likely, as some intelligence tells, on Sept 10, 11 or 12. I will surely take a moment to remember the thousands of people gone...

	04-09-2002 21:53									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Andrew1999 Now, now, you can't go taking all the credit. It was liberals and feminists too. I think they've got the Godly Veil of Protection back up now, but only over parts of the South and Orange County.

It's true though -- apparently, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are the seers of truth in everything, in spite of their lunatic qualities.

	05-09-2002 00:57									#71
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waco was supposed to have a bomb drill today....setting off a city wide fire alarm (in case terrorists bombed waco.....you know....) and seeing reaction time and what was done....
ok..you're dead, you're dead..you're dead...all baylor students (stupis ****s) are dead

	05-09-2002 00:59									#72
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Why would terrorists target Waco?

	05-09-2002 01:04									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed this is what'll happen, because americans don't like to remember~

Our culture is fixated on the immediate, and looking towards the future. The past is gone. This is the major differen between us and the rest of the world. Their past lives with them in the present.

	05-09-2002 01:16									#74
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Day of sadness is how I will always remember it.

I hope it happens to eveyone of you that made light of it.

	05-09-2002 01:33									#75
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Chris, an old Jewish man is driving down the road when he gets a flat tire. He says, "First the Holocaust, and now this!" In other words, humor is one of the ways we deal with the horrible.

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	05-09-2002 01:39									#76
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I think the attacks were truly a great tragedy, and I'm all for remembering those who perished or suffered in other ways (injured, lost loved ones, etc.). I just think that the media will make a mockery of it, and that too many people will find a way to turn it into an American chest-thumping event.

	05-09-2002 18:37									#77
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bush has officially named it "Patriot Day".

pity, i was hoping for something more, shall we say, palatable to the tongue? as in, not as awkward to say?

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ixnay, that's cold, AHHAHA funny, but cold... even I wouldn't have posted something like that.

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed bush has officially named it "Patriot Day". pity, i was hoping for something more, shall we say, palatable to the tongue? as in, not as awkward to say?

Ahhh, nationalism... another deadly chauvanistic psychic wellspring that plagues or species; along with sexism and racism...