15-01-2003 03:41									#121
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Ok then why not agree no black-map clicking? Noone can say it adds anything to the game.....it is ridiculous.....the only reason it occurs is because everyone does it and you cannot police it. But if that isn't a problem at all............

	15-01-2003 03:57									#122
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I thought about that, but I don't for two reasons.

1. I really don't care that people do it. I'm assuming that except for a few real anals, most of the people do it about as much as I do. Which isn't a whole heck of a lot. I'll sometimes check to see if a newly discovered whale has a opponents city in range or the occasional continent check, but I only do it a dozen or so times a game on maybe a few dozen squares during an 7 hour session. Gee, that works out to about 4 or 5 hexs an hour. Eyes may spend every extra second doing it, but I don't think many others do.

2. when changing the centering on the map, you can black click by accident and sometimes you find something without intending to. I don't want to have to tell everyone else in the game. "OPPPS I did it again, sorry". People might start questioning my integrity.

It's not a big thing. If that's the worst thing people are doing to bend the rules, I'm satisfied.

	15-01-2003 04:05									#123
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Fair enough, but it is interesting to question these things. A lot of the norms that have evolved have done so precisely because of the cost of policing the exploits involved. If you can trust a group implicitly there are many additions you could make to RAH rules.

	15-01-2003 10:27									#124
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black clicking is something i do if i get a none after a few cities are down.....i will click on my opponents turn like a mad man, and generally "find" the city, this just lets me know roughly how far away his empire is....or like rah said, if i see specials not built on....

i could care less if people do it, and its just a part of the game i have grown to accept, accidents happen and its impossible to police, besides attacking barbs give away city/unit locations too

	15-01-2003 20:21									#125
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leave black-clicking in, it lets me know how soon i'm going to be stomped on

	15-01-2003 20:42									#126
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@ CW.

And I'll second War4's notion that I usually discover more from Barb attacks than from black clicking.

RAH

	15-01-2003 23:40									#127
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besides, its imposssible to police this, mistake or otherwise, i think as long as you do it on someone elses turn and it doesn't slow the game down its fine....besides we all know what happens to slow players

@ CW

	15-01-2003 23:43									#128
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You hit on the key, as long as they're doing it on someone elses turn. But after giving it some thought, I actually do believe that if we agreed not to do it, most of our group wouldn't do it. But no one is clamoring for us not to do it so what the heck.

RAH

	15-01-2003 23:49									#129
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i actually do (did) blackclick quite a bit in the earlier turns. helpful to see how much room and in which directions i can expand, where to send my scouting units, and to kill time while waiting for all you slow people

	16-01-2003 00:05									#130
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did you really mean "waiting for all you people to kill me"


RAH

Besides, playing on large continent, small rocks like we do, almost everything is designated as a 1 anyway, so it's not as useful early on. All you can differenciate is inland seas.

	16-01-2003 00:11									#131
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"to kill time while waiting for slow people to kill me" yes

though there were a couple of games where i annoyed FF quite a bit

	16-01-2003 00:19									#132
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That's the beauty of the game, you can always choose a b*tch. Every now and then winning the game takes a back seat to B*tch slapping someone.

	16-01-2003 02:23									#133
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard "to kill time while waiting for slow people to kill me" yes though there were a couple of games where i annoyed FF quite a bit

yeah nothing like a bad start or poor land and just sitting there in dread waiting for the inevitable

	16-01-2003 02:28									#134
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quote: Originally posted by rah You hit on the key, as long as they're doing it on someone elses turn. But after giving it some thought, I actually do believe that if we agreed not to do it, most of our group wouldn't do it. But no one is clamoring for us not to do it so what the heck. RAH

yet another reason why i play with this group.

first and foremost is having fun
second and just as important is trust factor
thirdly, the game is great
fourth is the icq phone
fifth is the whining

those are five factors for good online gaming

	16-01-2003 02:36									#135
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quote: Originally posted by rah That's the beauty of the game, you can always choose a b*tch. Every now and then winning the game takes a back seat to B*tch slapping someone.

i wouldn't know anything about b*tch slapping, i'm still trying for "annoying sting"

	16-01-2003 03:42									#136
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@ CW

Twice in one day. CW is on a roll today.

RAH
yeah, and ditto what war said, (but the whining is questionable )

	16-01-2003 04:16									#137
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nah, its quite unique the way Ming does it

	16-01-2003 07:14									#138
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Damn right. I'm a Pro at it.

	16-01-2003 08:26									#139
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yes, perhaps a rule should be you must whine like Ming if not your out !

	16-01-2003 14:26									#140
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Have you guys played Markus recently?

	16-01-2003 16:39									#141
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Just a thought guys - since I need to do a little more work on the Hut Finder -- thanks to DaveV's comments -- would it be helpful if I included a (?deity only?) oedo table in the software?

SG[1]

please post any replies on the HutFinder thread - I don't come here that often...

	16-01-2003 18:43									#142
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Ok, I posted in that thread for you.

	17-01-2003 02:10									#143
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that would be a great idea, i will go and post my thoughts in the other thread as well ......+1 hunting we will go, hi ho the .......... you know the rest

	17-01-2003 16:38									#144
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[OT]
A quote for rah - from the UK sitcom "The Office":
Eagles may soar high, but weasels ferrets don't get sucked into jet engines.
[/OT]

SG[1]

edit] thanks CW

Last edited by Scouse Gits on 17-01-2003 at 20:33

	17-01-2003 16:45									#145
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Hehe 'The office' is the best show on tv at the moment........David Brent is up there with Fawlty as a creation......though what makes Brent so much more scary is that every facet of his character (even perhaps the overall character) is believable.

A 'painfully funny' show to be sure.

	17-01-2003 20:10									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits edit] dammit what's the code for strikethrough?

strike and the corresponding /strike within <>

	17-01-2003 20:30									#147
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secret code ?

	17-01-2003 20:33									#148
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< strike > and < /strike > without the spaces gives you: War4ever is clever for example


edit in response to post below:

Last edited by ColdWizard on 17-01-2003 at 20:52

	17-01-2003 20:34									#149
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No SG wanted weasels to appear, but misremembered the command that's all.

EDIT: Damn you CW.

	18-01-2003 02:26									#150
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oh so this is all about html coding ? or whatever computer coding your using to create this gibberish