07-11-2002 14:13									#331
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GeneralTacticus,

I was talking about the Hive POV when the proverbial sh** hits the fan....as in the intervening Hive fleet. However, now that you have said what you think, I'm thinking that it'd be better if you took over. You know what you want to happen with your faction so if you're cool about it, I'd like you to take over.

	07-11-2002 14:19									#332
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Fine with me.

	07-11-2002 14:43									#333
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan I hope no-one else see's this....

No-one reads my posts anyway, so your secret is safe with me.

quote: Mr Prez-Is yours a black Magic: The Gathering cards?

Yeah - it's Ihsan's Shade. Well spotted. I thought it might not have been too clear. Thanks for the professional opinion!

	07-11-2002 14:52									#334
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GeneralTac-Ok, it's all good.

Mr. Prez-it's pretty clear to myself, even though I haven't played Magic for over 5 years. Do you play the online game? My friends said they downloaded the freetrial version or something like it. I wouldn't mind making my Blue Counter deck.

I forget, there's this one black card in 4th edition....oh, Royal Assassin. That one I liked. even tho the drawing was kinda junk, I liked its abilities. But nothing beats the Vesuvian Doppleganger and Clones. Best was cloning a doppleganger. That plus all the counterspells made my blue deck rock!

Ok enough of my rant..........man, see what you've done? You've made me wanna play again.

	07-11-2002 14:58									#335
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Online? Nah. That's not really my scene. I'd sort of rather play with real cards (says the man who hasn't played for about six months now, because his stupid friend can't seem to understand "Meet me in the cafetaria on Monday to play Magic").

Where was I?

I liked the Royal Assassin too. The other black card I like is Nether Shadow. I used to have one, but he kept getting killed all the time.

And Clone is the bomb! Its art rocks too.

quote: You've made me wanna play again.

Perhaps you should try Magic Online, then. I'm still inclined to think it's not as fun as playing real-life, but it could be interesting nonetheless.

	09-11-2002 13:20									#336
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Ok guys the Spartans have arrived.

Franky. the spacial distortation i wrote about was meant to be a hive vessel or vessels that was cloacked observing the battle. The mercenaries that were captured dont know who hired them and I thought that Hive forces being in the system with old PK and Terran vessels would work towards confusing outsiders. Hope everyone likes it.

Comments?

	09-11-2002 13:24									#337
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I wrote it assuming that the Hive intended the Spartans to capture at least some of the mercenaries to kind of throw them off the trail a little. this way there can be some doubt as to who has interfered in the Cadre war. Makes it more interesting if the Spartans dont have solid evidence.

	09-11-2002 14:19									#338
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I was wondering about that distortion. I like the fact that you made a distinction between the organized Hive fleet in disguise and the hired mercs who were disorganized. Never would have thought of that.

Thanks for putting in that little distortion thing though. I can play around with it and use it in a future Hive post.....which I plan to do.

K, my next post is gonna be the one I was talking about concerning the snooping Drone's in Hive territory.

......things are getting interesting in BAC.

	09-11-2002 16:12									#339
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Good post. Thought the bit about the captured ship exploding was especially good, exactly what you would expect from a totally defeated enemy. Now, where shall we go from here? Spartan troops intervening on the planet? Yang wanting to know where his ships have gone?

	09-11-2002 16:19									#340
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Well, that was quick.

EDIT: I'll start working on the next post on the Cadre system tommorow. I need to get some sleep.

	09-11-2002 16:30									#341
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True that, GeneralTacticus,

I didn't go out tonite and just stayed home, watching cartoonnetwork and taking it easy. Going to go ne-ne soon so tomorrow nite I can party it up. Three day weekend baby!

But gonna go the the cemetary on Monday to remember Veteran's Day here. Have a good weekend mofo's! I'll probably see you guys again on Sunday (cause I work).

GenTac- I think the one escaped ship can be independant to what's happening in the Cadre system. You two can work on the ground war while I can have Yang discover the recent developments in the Cadre system.

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	10-11-2002 11:56									#342
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Ah, getting spicy!

	11-11-2002 04:28									#343
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Franky or General: How many Hive troops are going to be on the planet? I need to have a rough guess for next post.

	11-11-2002 06:05									#344
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Sprayber-

quote: Encrypted Message To: Major Lysander, Laekdaemon Cadre From: Warmaster Kang, Supreme Commander of Hive Military Major Lysander, Emperor Yang is most displeased that you will be needing more Hive assistance. As you may know, the Spartan Federation has been keeping an eye on Cadre developments and Hive aid is seen as 'unwelcomed' by the Spartan's. However, his imperial majesty understands your plight and has authorized the use of Hive ships to aid your revolution. Therefore, I am notifying you that Hive warships are on their way to your homeworld to assist your forces. Listed below is what will be arriving: 1 Battlecruiser 3 Corvettes 2 Frigates 1 Carrier 3 Troop ships (1500 soldiers)

Was on page 12.

	11-11-2002 06:36									#345
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But that's not including Hive forces already on Cadre homeworld.

quote: To: Laekdaemon Cadre representative From: Hive task force As ordered by our lord Emperor Yang, we have come here to help in your uprising against those who would ally themselves with the Spartans. We have been given specific orders that state his majesty power of authority shall be extended to Major Lysander. Note: if orders are given to betray our Empire, we will not obey and will leave Lysander's command. A report will be sent to Hive command as well of any anti-Hive activity. We await Lord Lysander's commands. Hive Task Force: 2 ships/250 men 20 Hive officers 10 Hive security social engineers 20 Hive assassins 30 Hive saboteurs 120 Veteran Hive soldiers * * *

Page 7. I think these personnel would be easier to spot. If they are not already dead. The Veterans, Social Engineers, and officers would be easy to spot. Naroun Felcheck (the Hive liason officer to Lysander) would probably be a giveaway.

But it depends on what GeneralTacticus did with these guys...if they're still around or not... *shrug*

	11-11-2002 11:04									#346
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quote: But it depends on what GeneralTacticus did with these guys...if they're still around or not... *shrug*

Actually, they haven't had much direct involvement in the story since they arrived - a lot of the soldiers got killed in the landing, and most of the remainder would probably have been killed when Dienkes Base fell, but the rest should be still alive and kicking.

EDIT: I mean most of the soldiers would be dead, but the others wouldn't be.

	16-11-2002 07:57									#347
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I was wondering how the Cadre are reacting to the arrival of the Spartan fleet becuase by now the goverment should know about it since their ships have been in contact with the Spartans.

I'll write up a post dealing with the Spartans setting up a blockade of the system and stopping ships. Maybe a Drone vessel entering the system with supplies of some kind. The ship would be detained until the system is secured and everything is checked out.

	16-11-2002 08:01									#348
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quote: I was wondering how the Cadre are reacting to the arrival of the Spartan fleet becuase by now the goverment should know about it since their ships have been in contact with the Spartans.

Well, they'd be pretty glad that the Hive fleet in the system ha sbeen eliminated, as they're the real threat - the Hive troops will be a difficulty, but one that can be dealt with. The Cadre had no means of dealing with the Hive fleet.

As for the blockade, it won't matter all that much unless it interrupts arms shipments to the loyalists, which would royally piss them off.

	18-11-2002 11:26									#349
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General announcement, ACDG'ers link this if someone asks;

In case anyone wonders, my internet connection is being replaced with a faster one. I'll be gone until next Christmas, I'll be back before January 2003, at least if all goes well.

So... Merry Christmas, Happy New Year etc. etc.

	19-11-2002 06:21									#350
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No problemo. I'm trying to cut down on my Internet usage, so I fear this thread might be a little inactive for a while.

	19-11-2002 06:23									#351
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Weird stuff, man . . .

I got an e-mail in my junk mail thread notification box that someone had posted to Beyond Alpha Centauri. Yet, no such post was spotted on visiting AC-Fiction.

	19-11-2002 06:25									#352
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Urban Ranger posted there by mistake a day or two ago. Apparently the Admins deleted it.

	19-11-2002 06:26									#353
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Hm. Where was he trying to post, that he was in Beyond Alpha Centauri by mistake?

	19-11-2002 07:01									#354
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He was asking a question about it, apparently not realizing he was supposed to post it here, rather than in the story thread.

	19-11-2002 09:59									#355
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Gosh, I hope he hasn't been frightened away.

	19-11-2002 12:37									#356
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Aaah, it's all good Kass. I wish I could upgrade my internet connection.

Wow, I didn't know Urban Ranger posted in the story thread! Well, I gotta say that this semester and work is kicking my butt, and that's why I haven't been here in a while. Sorry if it seems like I've been gone, but my classes are pretty brutal.

But I'm still a dedicated BAC author!

CO-BRA!

	20-11-2002 03:38									#357
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So how is everybody?
I am racking my brain for a new plot for the Conclave and have it posted ASAP

	20-11-2002 09:02									#358
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus He was asking a question about it, apparently not realizing he was supposed to post it here, rather than in the story thread.

Yeah, I came back and found my message had been deleted unceremoniously. It would be nice if the admins have a little list of do's and don'ts for this forum as a topped thread. Preferably with big bold letters saying "Read me first or else!"

Anyway, I was asking whether all the fiction pieces are somehow related, or is everybody more or less does his own thing.

Another thing is, is there any background on his? Some sort of starmap of which faction goes where? Are the Progenitors still out there? Are there any other alien races out there? What kind of technology (in our terms, not SMAC terms) has been achieved?

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quote: Anyway, I was asking whether all the fiction pieces are somehow related, or is everybody more or less does his own thing.

Yes, they're all part of a big story, although it's gotten to the stage where things have been going on for so logn we've almost forgotten why (e.g. the Terran Peace Conference, I have trouble remembering the war that it's supposed to end).

quote: Another thing is, is there any background on his? Some sort of starmap of which faction goes where? Are the Progenitors still out there? Are there any other alien races out there? What kind of technology (in our terms, not SMAC terms) has been achieved?

I believe Sprayber has a map somewhere; as for the Progenitors, the ones that landed on Planet have (IIRC) been exterminated, but their overall factions are still around, though they haven't had much involvement yet. There are some other alien races around too - the Bree, the Gorn, the Fraal, the Hferfin (sp?), and any others we may have come up with.

As for tech - we've had fusion reactors for a long time now, as well as interstellar travel, artifical intelligence, and generally a lot of other stuff that it would be difficult to list. We seem to be working mainly from the SMAc tech tree, as it's easier.

	20-11-2002 16:02									#360
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http://www.geocities.com/beyondalph...i/starmaps.html

Here is a link to a Rough early map. I'm still trying to make a better one by hand. I'm getting there.


Here is a rough history i worked out(some may remember it). I'll put it in time line form. any help with the dates would be appreciated and comments when i post it.

List of aliens (not including various primitive races that each author may write for) These races are static meaning they only provide a backdrop. Humanity is the main concern here. Or at least for now

Ancient Race 1 (name unknown)
Ancient Race 2 (name unknown)
Fraal
Progenators
Bree
Gorn
Uv Watt

Hferhin--Achieved space flight from damaged Progenator craft--managed to stay out of sight and exert influience in their small region of space.

Dosi--Old Race that has managed to escape attention for generations.


These races have fought on and off for thousands of years each growing in power until they had technologies that could devastate planets completely. The Fraal withdrew from the wars when it became apparent that the stakes were about to become very leathal for the civilizations. The progenators delt the first blow by destroying planets of Race #1 with the same technology that was used to create the manifolds. Their creations got away from them and eventually reduced their civilization to a state of low technology. The remaining two races forgot about the progeantors and started fighting each other. In the meantime races grew up and achieved space flight and were in turn destroyed by one of the older races. The Fraal only protected those races they felt were worthy and that meant keeping them out of space. As long as a race remained planet bound they were mostly safe. After many years of constant battles the two remaining races were exhausted by their wars and began to look for servent races to fight for them. Race 1 looked to the Bree as a species to use as their soldiers. Race 2 found the Gorn and gave them vast amounts of technology if they agreed to fight Race 1 and their Bree soldiers. The Gorn took the technology and then refused to fight for their benifactors. But Race 1 still sent the Bree against the Gorn thus beginning their generations long wars. Race 2 was desparate to find a race to uplift to use as soldiers and workers to suppliment their dwindeling numbers. They looked to a primative world deep in their sphere of influience as a source of troops. At first they took humans and altered them to adapt to varing climates. They set up separate planets to put them on and clone sufficient numbers. Those humans rebelled eventually and were lost. They then tried to get another race(Uv Watt) but they were not suited for war or hard labor and they were abandoned. They returned to Earth and took more humans and tried different methods to train and alter them. At their height they had humans on dozens of worlds trying to breed out the independent nature. In some cases they succeeded but it was too late. Race 1 and their Bree soldiers invaded Race 2's territory and began a war of annilation. Before they could totally wipe out their enemies however the Progenators were back with recovered technology. Race 1's homeworld was destroyed by a flowering caused by the Progenators. The Bree lost their masters but held on to muchof their technology. They soon had to concentrate on the Gorn who had also recovered and were slowly attacking Bree territory. They settled into their long and continous war. Race 2 was not saved by all of this because their numbers were so damaged that they returned to their homeworld and began to heal their numbers. The Progenators once again got too powerful and feel into infighting that resulted in them once again loosing technology. It has been 3700 years since the great races retreated back to their homeworlds. They go through cycles of regaining their level of technology and loosing it. The Bree and Gorn are locked in a cycle of war and rebuilding. Race 2 has dropped from history but still exists. The Uv Watt stay in their own little territories near the Believers and do not venture very far. The Fraal wonder about space looking for a planet to settle on. The progenators are rebuilding their technology while still figting a civil war. Humans are the first to emerge from their planet since the last wars and at the moment enjoy the middle position. Not primitive but crippled by disunity. Then there are the primitive races still planet bound. And every so often you will find an out of the way planet with Humans that are the result of attempts at genetic manipulation (ex. The one on Epona)