25-09-2002 07:34									#31
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Guess I'm back in, just started a regular monday night game with several guys I have played before, Drake, Pro and Frank, and another guy we know around here, Makeo, but we do have a new guy also.

Seems I'm a bit out of practise, took forever to get out of despot (I need to RESIST those damn huts, they kill ya! )

	26-09-2002 23:51									#32
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I a way I hate to be saying this, but there are probably more people playing Freeciv then Civ2MP now. At least when it comes to MP.

From 1-sept till 26th:
http://www.freeciv.org/clients.phtm...01&end=20020926

	27-09-2002 05:21									#33
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I'm a civ tragic

	27-09-2002 05:29									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I'm a civ tragic

nah just tragic at civ

	27-09-2002 06:05									#35
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever nah just tragic at civ

I'll kick your arse

	27-09-2002 08:11									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I'll kick your arse

Letter to father as follows......


Dear Dad, please refraim from drinking the wine with your turkey dinners......

While its obvious your extra weight from the turkey will hamper your efforts, too much wine gives you delusions of grandeur.

If were to continue to live in the same community, these
unfortunate outbursts must stop.

signed , the son

	27-09-2002 09:46									#37
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Oh don't worry war - your day is coming

	27-09-2002 10:03									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Oh don't worry war - your day is coming

Without the brains or the brawn , your only asset is courage. That in itself will only take you so far.

Though i hear from the ships that travel to my neck of the woods that you ARE making progress

	27-09-2002 10:22									#39
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Garn War, you're all talk ya blowhard

	27-09-2002 10:29									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Garn War, you're all talk ya blowhard

No he isn't

	27-09-2002 10:32									#41
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He's played me once

	27-09-2002 10:43									#42
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I've played him MANY... MANY... MANY... times, and hopefully will play him Many more... He's not all talk

	27-09-2002 10:46									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Ming He's not all talk

He is as far as I'm concerned - as I said, I've only played him once and frankly I didn't think he was that good. he's okay but not great. Certainly not in the league of some of the Australians.

	27-09-2002 10:48									#44
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Well... considering the time difference, I'm not surprised you haven't played him much.

He's one of the better players... and many people can confirm that. And which Aussie's do you rank as the better ones... since we all know you aren't one of them

	27-09-2002 10:56									#45
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Well I'll just ignore that little slap

The point is I haven't seen anything from War that would justify the patronising attitude he adopts to other players. He's a good player, I'm not denying that, but no better than say makeo or deity or finbar or any of the other regular Aussies.So he shouldn't talk down to people. We know he's full of sh*t.

Last edited by Alexander's Horse on 27-09-2002 at 11:02

	27-09-2002 11:01									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse The point is I haven't seen anything from War that would justify the patronising attitude he adopts to other plays.

Well... only playing him once, that is understandable.

I remember Makeo as being solid in the old days... Diety, not impressed. Never seen finbar. Is that the best you Aussies can offer up

	27-09-2002 11:04									#47
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Your group plays 2x because of your short attention span don't you?

	27-09-2002 11:05									#48
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Nahhh... we play it because we don't play as many continued games as you guys seem to do. If a game is only going to last 5 to 6 hours, might as well make it interesting.

	27-09-2002 11:13									#49
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True, we play games for months. Some of our games are real lazy cause there are all these complex unspoken rules about who can attack who and so forth. Its got quite weird frankly.

So you basically play one session games and determine the winner off the powergraph?

	27-09-2002 11:17									#50
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The powergraph is what it is... an indication only.

Most people in the game knows who is winning and who is getting killed. We don't need no stinkin powergraph to determine that

In some cases, the chest beating starts about... "If this game had just gone a few more turns", but in most cases, the leader and winner is very obvious...

It's just tough getting the same people on line to continue games. And even when you do, most people would rather have a fresh start then continue a game where three people are getting their butts handed to them

	27-09-2002 11:39									#51
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I stick out games where I'm losing. Even if you're coming last you can set goals and have fun.

Some people are just too concerned with their invincible rep.

	27-09-2002 12:21									#52
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I've continued many games where I'm getting my head handed to me. And yeah, you are right. In those kind of games, you relish the small victories, and set up goals you can attain, even if it isn't going to win you the game. Nothing better than taking wonder city from somebody, even if it really isn't going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not one of the TOP players... but I am above average and no push over. The only rep I care about is that I'm a fun and Honest player, and not a quitter.

It makes getting into games much easier

	27-09-2002 12:29									#53
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In the game I played war I got stuck on an island and he got the continent so I just kept setting survival goals, like 500 ad, 1000 ad.

Also I tried to get some settlers off to colonise a hidden part of the map, just to sh*t him

I think he got me some time after 1000ad.

	27-09-2002 12:37									#54
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One of my favorite tricks ( and rah is the master at it) is to pair a vet defensive unit with a settler, and look for places in enemy territory to build cities that will piss them off. Usually on some resource (preferably on solid defensive terrain) that they are using. They end up using far more resourses to take the city out then it took you to place it there. It keeps the game amusing

	27-09-2002 12:54									#55
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Ya that's a good one - another similar one is to put units on mountains at crucial bottlenecks inside their civ. If you put a diplo with them you get lots of feedback on their troop movements too.

I did that to makeo recently. Drove him nuts, especialy since I got into a fortified mountain hex which he had left unguarded.

	27-09-2002 13:01									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Well... only playing him once, that is understandable. I remember Makeo as being solid in the old days... Diety, not impressed. Never seen finbar. Is that the best you Aussies can offer up

deity, if you don't mind and he BITES!

BTW, we've NEVER played so I don't know where you got that idea from that I don't impress... ??

Can't let this one go! And it is an invitation for me to remind you of my track record:

* Beat Makeo by killing his entire civ in my first ever MP game before I even knew about WLTPD - 1999
* Took cities off arii in a big unfinished game with Markus/arii/finbar/crusty - 2000
* Diplo IV - declared winner against Elendil/Dangime/Empress/Wezil/Raz - 2000
* Consistently lead many Aussie games, regardless of start - 1999 - 2002
* Leader of the ill-fated Eurodip game - Berzerker was pretty equal or close but my unit count was over 100 and everyone else was at 30 odd. I was about to attack Berzerker but the game stalled when Elendil quit Markus was in this game, along with Crusty/Easthaven and Capo - 2001
* HOTW2 - declared winner after decimating drake's empire
* Tourney 2 game with Makeo/Markus/Hydey - Markus concedes after Hydey takes out Markus Wonder city. This was based on a manipulative deal between me and Hydey... - 2001
maybe you don't like that aspect of my play Ming? OR maybe you don't like that fact that I use the forums for in-game strategic purposes??
* Beat Nappy and Makeo in the small Earth Diplo game - outright concession by Nappy after Makeo, his ally, attacked Dangime, my ally. I wiped out half of Makeo's civ and was ready for Nappy's Africa... - 2002
* Markus the only player, other than Makeo, to come close to outright beating me in proper MP game - unfinished game unfortunately
*Only lost two duels - one to Makeo and finbar

In all that time the only players to ever take a city off me are:
Hydey
Makeo
Dangime
Markus
finbar
winzity

So, what's up Ming?

Why don't we play sometime?

And what aren't you impressed with? LOL!

I prefer 1x1x deity to king level
but I do play 2x1x...

	27-09-2002 13:10									#57
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quote: Originally posted by deity deity, if you don't mind and he BITES! BTW, we've NEVER played so I don't know where you got that idea from that I don't impress... ?? Can't let this one go! And it is an invitation for me to remind you of my track record: * Beat Makeo by killing his entire civ in my first ever MP game before I even knew about WLTPD - 1999 * Took cities off arii in a big unfinished game with Markus/arii/finbar/crusty - 2000 * Diplo IV - declared winner against Elendil/Dangime/Empress/Wezil/Raz - 2000 * Consistently lead many Aussie games, regardless of start - 1999 - 2002 * Leader of the ill-fated Eurodip game - Berzerker was pretty equal or close but my unit count was over 100 and everyone else was at 30 odd. I was about to attack Berzerker but the game stalled when Elendil quit Markus was in this game, along with Crusty/Easthaven and Capo - 2001 * HOTW2 - declared winner after decimating drake's empire * Tourney 2 game with Makeo/Markus/Hydey - Markus concedes after Hydey takes out Markus Wonder city. This was based on a manipulative deal between me and Hydey... - 2001 maybe you don't like that aspect of my play Ming? OR maybe you don't like that fact that I use the forums for in-game strategic purposes?? * Beat Nappy and Makeo in the small Earth Diplo game - outright concession by Nappy after Makeo, his ally, attacked Dangime, my ally. I wiped out half of Makeo's civ and was ready for Nappy's Africa... - 2002 * Markus the only player, other than Makeo, to come close to outright beating me in proper MP game - unfinished game unfortunately *Only lost two duels - one to Makeo and finbar In all that time the only players to ever take a city off me are: Hydey Makeo Dangime Markus finbar winzity So, what's up Ming? Why don't we play sometime? And what aren't you impressed with? LOL! I prefer 1x1x deity to king level but I do play 2x1x...

I'm just quoting this just in case deity realises what a dork he is in recording all this.

He and I have never duelled and only been at war briefly for a couple of turns of one game which was not continued.

	27-09-2002 13:14									#58
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LOL!

You too scared to attack me

Go on, do it

	27-09-2002 13:15									#59
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And why shouldn't I respond to Ming's nonsense about me not being impressive?

He's never played me but I have annoyed him because he knows I see him as a most unbalanced mod.

	27-09-2002 18:19									#60
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quote: Originally posted by deity And why shouldn't I respond to Ming's nonsense about me not being impressive? He's never played me but I have annoyed him because he knows I see him as a most unbalanced mod.

Nahhh... AH was ragging on War based on playing him one game... So I was just trading jibes with him. You really should read things in the context of the entire coversation...