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loinburger is offline loinburger
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Sweet Sauce Jones
Jul 1999
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
1) The "misconceptions" are what the vast majority of people believe to be the case, and


I agree that the vast majority on Apolyton use the terms as you and others have, but I'm used to seeing the less ambiguous terms "weak atheist" and "strong atheist" act as the delimiters.

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2) Even trusted sources, like my Webster's, define the terms by what you deem "erroneously,"


How does it define the terms? My dictionary is pretty ambiguous on the term "atheist" (as it ought to be, since alone it's a very broad term), but is pretty delimiting on the term "agnostic:" "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God." So it only uses the definition of Strong agnosticism, but that's the most common useage of the term anyway (since Weak agnosticism is so broad as to be almost useless).

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Then how is it anyone's fault for applying those terms to their most common usage, the one most people will understand right away (without having to do cartwheels of explanation)?


It isn't necessarily anybody's fault.

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More importantly, why does that provoke your launching attacks on someone like me, who uses the most common definitions?


I hardly think that I was attacking you, and I certainly didn't intend for you to think that I was. I only wanted to find out (and still only want to find out) whether there's a distinction between the worldviews of agnostics and weak atheists, whether there's the need for another term (i.e. whether it's possible to believe and disbelieve something at the same time), etc.

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
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At least until the menace of Bob Dillon is eliminated...


I totally didn't get this last night. I finally figured out who the hell "Bob Dillon" was just before I fell asleep, but I sure as hell wasn't getting up to post a witty rebuttal. Strange how a misspelled name could throw my thought processes off so much...

loinburger is offline loinburger
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I totally didn't get this last night. I finally figured out who the hell "Bob Dillon" was just before I fell asleep, but I sure as hell wasn't getting up to post a witty rebuttal. Strange how a misspelled name could throw my thought processes off so much...


Dammitall, I can't spell for ****. Is it Dillan or Dylan or Dyllan or something?

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
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Tired of ads?

It's Bob Dylan. Duh...

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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The farce is strong with this one.
Feb 2000
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1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Secular Humanism (98%)
3. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (89%)
4. Liberal Quakers (88%)
5. Nontheist (76%)
6. Theravada Buddhism (67%)
7. Neo-Pagan (64%)
8. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (54%)
9. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (51%)
10. Bahá'í Faith (50%)
11. Reform Judaism (49%)
12. New Age (48%)
13. Taoism (45%)
14. Jehovah's Witness (41%)
15. New Thought (41%)
16. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (39%)
17. Orthodox Quaker (38%)
18. Mahayana Buddhism (37%)
19. Sikhism (35%)
20. Scientology (35%)
21. Seventh Day Adventist (25%)
22. Jainism (23%)
23. Hinduism (22%)
24. Eastern Orthodox (19%)
25. Islam (19%)
26. Orthodox Judaism (19%)
27. Roman Catholic (19%)

I would consider myself to be nontheist/secular humanist...universal unitarianism certainly doesn't seem to fit me

Gangerolf is offline Gangerolf
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May 2001
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1. Secular Humanism (100%)
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3. Liberal Quakers (87%)
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5. Nontheist (84%)
6. Theravada Buddhism (74%)
7. Neo-Pagan (55%)
8. Bahá'í Faith (53%)
9. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (53%)
10. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (49%)

I'm half Mormon? WTF

Anodyne is offline Anodyne
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Jan 2001
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Hmm...

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Secular Humanism (94%)
3. Liberal Quakers (93%)
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (93%)
5. Nontheist (67%)
6. Neo-Pagan (67%)
7. Theravada Buddhism (64%)
8. Bahá'í Faith (59%)
9. New Age (56%)
10. Reform Judaism (52%)
11. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (52%)
12. Taoism (51%)
13. Orthodox Quaker (48%)
14. New Thought (48%)
15. Mahayana Buddhism (46%)
16. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (46%)
17. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (37%)
18. Scientology (36%)
19. Jehovah's Witness (36%)
20. Jainism (34%)
21. Sikhism (30%)
22. Islam (21%)
23. Orthodox Judaism (21%)
24. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)
25. Hinduism (16%)
26. Eastern Orthodox (14%)
27. Roman Catholic (14%)

Caesar the Great is offline Caesar the Great
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Apr 1999
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1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
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4. Liberal Quakers (74%)
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7. Theravada Buddhism (58%)
8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (49%)
9. Hinduism (49%)
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11. Bahá'í Faith (47%)
12. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (47%)
13. Taoism (43%)
14. New Age (38%)
15. Jainism (37%)
16. New Thought (35%)
17. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (34%)
18. Orthodox Quaker (31%)
19. Reform Judaism (31%)
20. Jehovah's Witness (29%)
21. Scientology (28%)
22. Sikhism (24%)
23. Seventh Day Adventist (16%)
24. Eastern Orthodox (12%)
25. Islam (12%)
26. Orthodox Judaism (12%)
27. Roman Catholic (12%)

 
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