26-09-2002 17:33									#61
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Um, transactions.

I am not familiar with format too well, so...

Sell one commerce to Ghengis @ D/S +10
Recieve 4 Shields from Ghengis, Use my 4 vassals in my workshop to create 8 1/2 shields
Give Ghengis 5 1/2 Shields.

Production: 0 food, 0 shield, 1 commerce
Cash: 280, 0 debt
no stockpile.

Last edited by UnOrthOdOx on 26-09-2002 at 18:50

	26-09-2002 19:00									#62
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When is this turn over? Is it today?

	26-09-2002 21:51									#63
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MARKET CLOSED


Final Auction Status

Here are the current lands STILL AVAILABLE IN BOLDYou purchase no more than 3 tiles (borrowing money from the government) and if you wish to borrow more than $1000 you can purchase only one tile. (IE, the only way you can purchase more than one tile is to buy a buch of unimproved jungle.)

Purple lands have been abandoned.

(H) 002 Apolyton NE (mined grass rd(2 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce)), $1000
...notyoueither bid $1000

(A)....007 Apolyton NW12 (mined grass rd(2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce)), $1000
...GhengisFarb bid $1000

(B)....016 Tassagrad N (mined grass rd(2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce)), $1000
...=OttomusCeasar= bid $1000

(C)....017 Tassagrad NE (grassland (2 food)), $450
...UnOrthOdOx bid $450

(J) 018 Tassagrad SE (grassland(2 food, 2 shield)), $1000
...GhengisFarb bid $1000

(I) 019 Tassagrad S (grass rd, mine(2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce)), $1000
...GhengisFarb bid $1000

(D)....020 Tassagrad SW (grass rd, mine(2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce)), $1000
...Kloreep bid $1000

(K) 021 Tassagrad W (jungle(1 food)), $200
...GhengisFarb bid $200

(L) 029 BHQ SW (mined grass rd river(2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce)), $1500
...jdd2007 bid $1500


(E) BHQ NNW Higher (jungle w/ road (1 food, 1 commerce) ), $450
...UnOrthOdOx bid $450

(F) Termina NW2 Higher (jungle w/ river(1 food, 1 commerce)), $500
...Jonny bid $670
...UnOrthOdOx bid $500

(G) Termina NNW Higher (jungle w/ river(1 food, 1 commerce)), $500
...Duddha bid $800
...Jonny bid $750
...Duddha bid $650
...Jonny bid $625
...Duddha bid $600
...UnOrthOdOx bid $500

(M) BHQ NW Center11 (jungle(1 food)), $200
...jdd2007 bid $200

	26-09-2002 22:56									#64
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FINAL TRANSACTION LIST FOR SESSION 8
Here's what I came up with for completed transactions:

Labor Market
Apolyton Available Labor: 6
D:S 0/6 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

Termina Available Labor: 3
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS


Tassagrad Available Labor: 5
D:S 0/5 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

BHQ Available Labor: 3
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

Port Rouge Available Labor: 2
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

Vassals for Auction:
NONE

D:S = 6/14 = $29 (Minimum Wage)
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Ghengis Farb hired 2 vassals from =OptimusCeasar= for $20 each


FOOD MARKET
Food demand: 30
Food supplied: 31
Food sold: 14

D:S = 30/(31+14)45 = 66.67
End price = $67
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Captain sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $67
Duddha sold 2 food @ $67
GhengisFarb sold 8 food @ $67 (Through Taverns)
jdd2007 sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $77
jdd2007 sold 1 food @ $67
Jonny sold 1 food to GhengisFarb @ $77
Kloreep sold 1 food @ $67 (Through Tavern)
notyoueither sold 2 food @ $67 (Through Tavern)
=OptimusCeasar= sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $77



SHIELD MARKET
Shields demand: 20
Shields supplied: 22
Shields sold: 3 Shields bought: 0

D:S = 20/25(22 +3) = 80
End price = $80
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 1 shield @ $80
Jonny sold 2 shields @ $80



COMMERCE MARKET
Commerce demand: 60
Commerce supplied: 19
Commerce sold: 16

D:S = 60/(19 + 16)35 = 85.7%
End price = $86
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 1 commerce @ $86
GhengisFarb sold 10 commerce @ $86 (Through Shoppes)
jdd2007 sold 3 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96
Jonny sold 1 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96
Kloreep sold 1 commerce @ $86
notyoueither sold 2 commerce @ $86 (Through Shoppe)
=OptimusCeasar= sold 1 commerce @ $86
UnOrthOdOx sold 1 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96


Total Incomes

adaMada received $110 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =-$110 (Cash $110, Debt $650)


Captain sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $67
..........Total Income for Turn =$134 (Cash $134, Debt $0)


civman2000 received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$175 (Cash $225, Debt $0)


Darkness' Edge
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $400)


Duddha bid $800 for tile G
Duddha sold 2 food @ $67
Duddha sold 1 shield @ $80
Duddha sold 1 commerce @ $86
..........Total Income for Turn = -$500 (Cash $394, Debt $0)


Epistax
..........Total Income for Turn = $0 (Cash $395, Debt $750)


Frances
..........Noble (Cash $405 in Royal Treasury)


GhengisFarb bid $1000 for tile A
GhengisFarb bid $1000 for tile J
GhengisFarb bid $1000 for tile I
GhengisFarb bid $200 for tile K
Ghengis Farb hired 2 vassals from =OptimusCeasar= for $20 each
GhengisFarb gave UnOrthOdOx 4 shields for 5 halfshields
GhengisFarb used 2 vassals and =OttomusCeasar='s vassals to convert 8 food into 8 mead in Duff's Brewery
GhengisFarb bought 2 food from Captain @ $67
GhengisFarb bought 2 food from jdd2007 @ $77
GhengisFarb bought 1 food from Jonny @ $77
GhengisFarb bought 2 food from =OttomusCeasar= @ $77
GhengisFarb sold 8 food @ $67 (Through Taverns)
.....(Tavern bonus 8 X $33 (50% of $67))
GhengisFarb bought 3 commerce from jdd2007 @ $96
GhengisFarb bought 1 commerce from Jonny @ $96
GhengisFarb sold 10 commerce @ $86 (Through Shoppes)
.....(Shoppe bonus 10 X $43 (50% of $86))
GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent
GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent
GhengisFarb paid rendelnep $175 rent
..........Total Income for Turn = -$2513 (Cash=$1854, Debt=$0)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
TAVERN IN BHQ
TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
SHOPPE IN APOLYTON
SHOPPE IN BHQ
SHOPPE IN TASSAGRAD
FINISHED BREWERY at "Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3


jdd2007 bid $1500 for tile L
jdd2007 bid $200 for tile M
jdd2007 sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $77
jdd2007 sold 1 food @ $67
jdd2007 sold 3 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96
..........Total Income for Turn = -$1191 (Cash $468, Debt $0)


Jonny bid $670 for tile F
Jonny sold 1 food to GhengisFarb @ $77
Jonny sold 2 shields @ $80
Jonny sold 1 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96
..........Total Income for Turn = -$337 (Cash $333, Debt $0)


Kloreep bid $1000 for tile D
Kloreep sold 1 food @ $67 (Through Tavern)
.....(Tavern bonus 1 X $33 (50% of $67))
Kloreep sold 1 commerce @ $86
..........Total Income for Turn = -$814 (Cash $0, Debt $614)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
STOREHOUSE ON HIS ESTATE


Kramerman
..........Noble (Cash $545 in Royal Treasury)


Nimitz
..........Total Income for Turn = $0 (Cash $278, Debt $0)


notyoueither bid $1000 for tile H
notyoueither sold 2 food @ $67 (Through Tavern)
.....(Tavern bonus 2 X $33 (50% of $67))
notyoueither sold 2 horses @ $86 (Through Shoppe)
.....(Shoppe bonus 2 X $43 (50% of $86))
.....(Horse bonus 2 X $26 (30% of $86))
..........Total Income for Turn = -$490 (Cash $27, Debt $0)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
SHOPPE IN APOLYTON


=OttomusCeasar= bid $1000 for tile B
=OptimusCeasar= hired out two vassals to GhengisFarb for $20 each
=OptimusCeasar= sold 2 food to GhengisFarb @ $77
=OptimusCeasar= sold 1 commerce @ $86
..........Total Income for Turn = -$720 (Cash $0, Debt $720)
FINISHED STOREHOUSE ON HIS ESTATE


rendelnep received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$175 (Cash $175, Debt $0)


Shiek
..........Noble (Cash $153 in Royal Treasury)


skywalker
..........Noble (Cash $405 in Royal Treasury)


Spiffor
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $240, Debt $775)


UnOrthOdOx bid $450 for tile C
UnOrthOdOx bid $450 for tile E
UnOrthOdOx used 4 labor to convert 4 shields into 8 halfshields
UnOrthOdOx gave GhengisFarb 5 halfshields for 4 shields
UnOrthOdOx sold 1 commerce to GhengisFarb @ $96
..........Total Income for Turn = -$804 (Cash $376, Debt $900)
LUMBER MILL ON HIS ESTATE


Anyone notice any mistakes/corrections?


CURRENT STOCKPILES
Discontinued.....(Mind you I still keep track so don't think about fudging your inventory.)


CONSTRUCTION STATUS

Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.



COMMERCIAL HOLDINGS (Active during this session)
APOLYTON
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in Apolyton
notyoueither owns a Tavern in Apolyton
Kloreep owns a Tavern in Apolyton

GhengisFarb owns a Shoppe in Apolyton
notyoueither owns a Shoppe in Apolyton


BHQ
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in BHQ

GhengisFarb owns a Shoppe in BHQ


TASSAGRAD
GhengisFarb owns a Tavern in Tassagrad

GhengisFarb owns a Shoppe in Tassagrad


TERMINA
Epistax owns a Tavern? in Termina


RURAL HOLDINGS
GhengisFarb owns a Storehouse on tile 026 BHQ N (mountain)
GhengisFarb owns Duff Brewery on tile 015 Termina NE3 (grassland formerly known as jungle),

Kloreep owns a Storehouse on tile 006 Apolyton NW11 (mined grass rd)

UnOrthOdOx owns a Lumber Mill on 013 Termina NE1 (jungle)

=OttimusCeasar= owns a Storehouse on tile 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle)

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 27-09-2002 at 18:07

	26-09-2002 23:06									#65
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cool, now I have another 3 food and 1 commerce to play with.

	26-09-2002 23:29									#66
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Yay! Wait a sec, I'm in debt again. Now I gotta start paying off my debt.

Since notyoueither isn't selling horses to anyone can we buy the 4 he's sold to the market at closing D/S + 30%?

Last edited by =OttomusCeasar= on 26-09-2002 at 23:42

	27-09-2002 03:04									#67
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One small error, Ghengis: I completed my warehouse (as you've noted correctly in "Rural Holdings"), so I don't have a half-completed warehouse in "Construction Status", though I'd gladly take it.

	27-09-2002 03:20									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep One small error, Ghengis: I completed my warehouse (as you've noted correctly in "Rural Holdings"), so I don't have a half-completed warehouse in "Construction Status", though I'd gladly take it.

Fixed, it. It was an expansion. Does the 4 0f ? stay with Francis' Estate?

	27-09-2002 03:57									#69
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UnOrthOdOx and =OttomusCeasar=...

I am willing to sell horses, I just need to get familiar with the mechanics. I asked GF if selling a horse was the same as selling one of my commerce. He said yes. So, to buy a horse, bid on it the same way you would bid to buy a shield during a trading round. There are 2 available each round (assuming I sell commerce from the Mustang Ranch that round).

What I am still not clear on is if horses themselves have their own DS number. I don't think so, I think they are lumped in with commerce in general.

If so, had someone bid on a horse in round 8 it would have cost a bit more than $86 base.

Would the buyer also have to pay the shoppe and horse premium GF? If so, the final price would have been a bit over $155.

I expect all prices to drop dramatically in round 9 when the products of all the just purchased lands begin selling.

	27-09-2002 04:26									#70
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither UnOrthOdOx and =OttomusCeasar=... I am willing to sell horses, I just need to get familiar with the mechanics. I asked GF if selling a horse was the same as selling one of my commerce. He said yes. So, to buy a horse, bid on it the same way you would bid to buy a shield during a trading round. There are 2 available each round (assuming I sell commerce from the Mustang Ranch that round). What I am still not clear on is if horses themselves have their own DS number. I don't think so, I think they are lumped in with commerce in general. If so, had someone bid on a horse in round 8 it would have cost a bit more than $86 base. Would the buyer also have to pay the shoppe and horse premium GF? If so, the final price would have been a bit over $155. I expect all prices to drop dramatically in round 9 when the products of all the just purchased lands begin selling.

Here's my dilemna:

Horses sell on the commerce market, maybe we should have a livestock market with horse and cattle?

Horses sell with a 30% bonus, a shoppe gives a 50% bonus, but I don't see selling horses through a shop, maybe we could have a STABLE that worked like a shop?
I don't know, I would like to start some different markets like a weapons market where you sell swords and armor made from iron but we don't have any iron in our market yet.

Anyway, here's the revised map, did I make any mistakes?