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our_man
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Glasgow, Scotland
Oct 2000
time: 05:22
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In response to your question Pevonian, Ireland only became a Republic in 1947 I believe, until then we were only a Dominion. Suggesting however that Ireland should be lumped into the British Civ at the beginning of the game is not realistic from a historical point of view.
Up until 1932 the British parliament still exerted control over our laws, but due to the Statute of Westminster of 1927 (in which Kevin O'Higgins played a pivotal role in creating) Dominion states could change their constitution without consulting Britain. With the coming to power of Fianna Fail, de Valera created a new constitution which destroyed the power of Governor-General, which was the last British office that could influence our independence. Throughout the 30's de Valera sought to remove all links with Britain - hence the Economic War and the returning of the Treaty Ports.
Even if this does not convince you as to why Ireland should be represented neutrally, the fact that we declared neutrality (the only Dominion country to do so) during the 2nd World War is enough of a criteria to warrant an independent country. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
As it is in the scenario, I feel that there should be a few Minor Nations units in Ireland, as all the British have to do is walk into the Irish cities - if we had been invaded by either an Allied or Axis power we would have put up some sort of fight. Of course we would have got our asses kicked, but in Civ terms surely we would have been able to damage a unit or two? Maybe some partisans? 
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tanelorn
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of the deep blue sea
Jun 2001
time: 07:22
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Great scenario, I single- played both versions (well, at least a few turns).
I know this is an alternate history scenario but, IMHO:
A few points about the map: Back at 1939 Adrianople was Turkish, not Bulgarian and Mosul was Iraqi, not Turkish.
The British mandate was lifted and Iraq was an independed monarchy, nominally, but because of the oilfields -in Mosul of all places-, in the Kurdish territory there were still imperial troops stationed in the area. So, when a pro-axis coup-d' etat was staged after the war broke out, the British intervened and took active control. They were in conflict with Vichy French in control of Syria and Lebanon too.
The Bulgarians held Adrianople only briefly, during the Balkan wars (1912-13).
Moreover, the Turks did not have a production line for Renault tanks (they had only a few samples of tanks), but produced about 100 polish planes .
The Spanish actualy produced Bf 109 Messerchmits as Ha 1109 (Db 601 engines) and Ha 1112 (Merlin engines!).
Moreover, giving so many movement points to ships without lowering their attack factors makes them the ultimate coastal killer. The British navy can shoot the entire European coastline clear in a couple of turns!
What do you think?
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Patroklos
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Back home in good ole Norfolk VA
Dec 2001
time: 05:22
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Did it go to apolyton yet?
I just found this thread today and it has made me go dig my Civ II disc out of the closet (I am disgusted by the CivIII WWII scenarios). Hope you release a version to the public soon.
Never tried PBEM before, but will definetly after reading the test thread.
Last edited by Patroklos on 03-12-2002 at 01:54
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tarpoon
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Wuppertal
Aug 2002
time: 06:22
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Klesh, any comments on adding the Char du Rupture as heavy french tank?
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