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Should this amendment be added to the constitution
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UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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I was saying it CAN be Official AND officially acted upon. One who challenges it MUST prove it is Invalid. I do not believe the court would rule in their favor as the two polls have diferent purposes. I am willing to defend it as such, and even the third poll which would be which city gets the palace or th FP. I don't see why you fear a POSSIBLE court case so much. Worst that could happen is the poll become invalid.

UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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Back on topic:

What is everyone's feelings on the MoE distributing funds for the SMC and City Planner to use as they see fit?

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I think that the request made by Ministers must be supported by other members of the Government (including the Prez of course). However good is the judgment of somebody, there can be other priorities which have to be appraised by the governement as a whole.

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This would have been somewhat o.k., but it fails to address 2 instances:

1) Rushing under Governments of either Despotism & Communism; which will affect City production, economic output and overall happyness.

2) Drafting of Conscripts, which will also do the same effects as above.

I think this admendment needs to also consider these.

E_T

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This would have been somewhat o.k., but it fails to address 2 instances:

1) Rushing under Governments of either Despotism & Communism; which will affect City production, economic output and overall happyness.

2) Drafting of Conscripts, which will also do the same effects as above.

I think this admendment needs to also consider these.

E_T


::chuckle::

I guess we're all so much still in the Civ/Civ2 mindset that we still seem to forget about pop rushing

joncnunn is offline joncnunn
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Thinking of Drafting, I bet Dudha wishes that foreign nationals could be drafted.

UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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I was purposely leaving out Drafting and PopRushing.

Why?

This is a patchwork amendment. Only meant to cover the problem at hand until the Constitutional Convention gets their entirely new CoL together. We are not going to be in a Communism before that. This is to fix the problem at hand:

No one is in charge of the cash, and many people want to have their say in the spending of such. Someone must be responsible.

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When all Ministers have said what they want to buy and how much it costs, and assuming that there is not enough cash available to do everything, priorities have to be established. Opinions can be different, even opposite ; the Gov. needs a smooth decision process to solve that problem. If necessary someone has to arbitrate between opposite views ; it could be a President responsibility.

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I don't know, the more I think about it the more I like this ammendment, and not just because I'm the current MoE and possibly will be for the next term as well. I've learned over the past few weeks that, honestly, many demands are made upon Apolytonia's coffers, and it is vital that someone can look at it all, from a more unbiased p.o.v. I think up until now, when the City Planner or SMC or Foreign Ministry has spent cash on something, no one has really stopped and looked at how it effects things as a whole, or where the money could have been spent instead (if you know anything about economics, I'm referring to "oppurtunity cost")... in short, I think this ammendment will allow for a much better organization and distribution of funds than has heretofore existed. Like Unortho said, someone's gotta be responsible.

 
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