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Jon Miller
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Originally posted by loinburger
A friend of mine swore by TA: Kingdoms, but it seemed too much like TA Lite to me. I'd pick Starcraft or C&C before Kingdoms any day; TA had its selling points, but Kingdoms gave them all away. |
I disliked TA:kingdoms
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:22
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Anyone know how WC3 is selling in Korea?
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I didn't like SC. I'd take C&C over it any day. I own both, spent time on both. When it comes down to it, C&C has crisper graphics, much clearer terrain, much less useless units, and you could win a game by creatively spending $2000 (carefully landing a chinook and Tanya in an ill prepared base). SC seemed to me... you can easily spend allot of time going down dead end tech paths, resources will run out just as your economy is booming, managing two bases for more resources is just tedious, and the only way to win was to just use overpowering force. It became too cut and dry for me, and I didn't enjoy playing the game.
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tinyp3nis
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compensate this!!
May 2002
time: 07:22
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Originally posted by 1
I didn't like SC. I'd take C&C over it any day. I own both, spent time on both. When it comes down to it, C&C has crisper graphics, much clearer terrain, much less useless units, and you could win a game by creatively spending $2000 (carefully landing a chinook and Tanya in an ill prepared base). SC seemed to me... you can easily spend allot of time going down dead end tech paths, resources will run out just as your economy is booming, managing two bases for more resources is just tedious, and the only way to win was to just use overpowering force. It became too cut and dry for me, and I didn't enjoy playing the game. |
After reading this it's obvious that you are a newbie in sc. This is what dinodoc was talking about when he mentioned Big game hunters players  . Real players don't use dead end paths, and use every unit to its fullest potential, not mass. You're not a bad person, don't take this as offence. I used to think I knew everything too when I was a newb.
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Dewd, my point is... in a good game there SHOULDN"T be dead end paths...at all. As for the "newb" comment... I'll just refer you to your own screen name.
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Oooommmggg.. honestly, anyone who would talk trash on someone else because they don't have the same opinion on a stupid computer game....has taken the whole thing way too seriously. Newbie? Who gives a **** what skill level I would be? I DON"T like the game, many other people DON"T like the game. Its that simple. Could you sound ANY more like a computer geek?
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SnowFire
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New York City, NY
Jan 1970
time: 00:22
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UR: I'm not so sure. If you don't like SC, then BW probably won't be able to overcome it- you will still have to be clicky with your mouse. That said, the options you can do multiply. Just as an example, the Terrans got Medics & Valkyries. In terms of SOME stategies I can pull off, many of which work better with BW...
-A fast Marines rush. Kinda standard, but can be effective, although not much fun if you win with it.
-Wait a bit, and hit with more Marines backed by Medics. The Medics make the Marines about twice as useful, being that they live longer and you can stimpack a lot more freely.
-Ignore infantry troops almost completely and head straight for 2 Factories, cranking out Siege tanks to blow up land units and Goliaths for fast-support and anti-air. Maybe build some dropships to put a tankie surprise at the back of somebody's base. The Goliaths can shoot farther with their anti-air now, too (with an upgrade from BW, making them awesome against air). Upgrade Vehicle techs a lot.
-Try and build up to Starports fast, and get out some cloaked Wraiths before my opponent has adequate detection. Even if repulsed, I might be able to come back with more, or even more deviously, just make a few to make your opponent waste too many resources on detectors.
-On a land map, build up some Vultures and research Spider Mines, running around skirmishing and finding enemy expansions while dropping Mines in places I intend to fight battles. Meanwhile, my base is secure.
-If my enemy is in love with air units, or in mass team games, build up a huge force of Valkyries and wait for their army of BCs/Carriers/something to come on in... and die.
-Nukes & Science Vessels speak for themselves in temrs of the support they can give.
And so on. Contrary to what 1 said, there are no useless units in SC: BW. It's beautiful. Sure, you don't use Vultures every game, but they sure have their place (and people like Boxer certainly use 'em, so they can't suck!).
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:22
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1 and tiny cut it out guys. No reason to call each other newbies at a game. Lets be reasonable. Simply say why you like what you like and why it has depth but without all the attacks.
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:22
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tiny, I was trying to give you guys a warning just before it got out of hand and lead to both you being banned. I am sorry if you don't respect me for that.
You can have a discussion and a fight without the verbal assualts. Look at what you said in the very first post, quote:
After reading this it's obvious that you are a newbie in sc (...) Real players don't use dead end paths (.... ) You're not a bad person, don't take this as offence. I used to think I knew everything too when I was a newb. |
Bold added for emphasis by me.
Does that really seem like you don't mean any offense? It seems to mean that you were insulting him right off the bat. And he took your bait. Why couldn't you have said this:
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There are no dead end paths in SC for serious players. The experienced player knows what to go for and what not to in all situations. The game is incredibly balanced in that all the tech upgrades are important in certain situations. The players that win, know when the time is right for the upgrade. |
All I am asking is for this to stay civil. You both seem to have valid points to make that would benefit both of you to hear. You could find C&C to be a game that you would actually like to give a longer try, while he could find SC to be a game that he would like to get good at to battle you. And I think others would respect you both more as well.
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tinyp3nis
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compensate this!!
May 2002
time: 07:22
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quote:
Originally posted by tniem
tiny, I was trying to give you guys a warning just before it got out of hand and lead to both you being banned. I am sorry if you don't respect me for that.
You can have a discussion and a fight without the verbal assualts. Look at what you said in the very first post, quote:
After reading this it's obvious that you are a newbie in sc (...) Real players don't use dead end paths (.... ) You're not a bad person, don't take this as offence. I used to think I knew everything too when I was a newb. |
Bold added for emphasis by me.
Does that really seem like you don't mean any offense? It seems to mean that you were insulting him right off the bat. And he took your bait. Why couldn't you have said this:
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There are no dead end paths in SC for serious players. The experienced player knows what to go for and what not to in all situations. The game is incredibly balanced in that all the tech upgrades are important in certain situations. The players that win, know when the time is right for the upgrade. |
All I am asking is for this to stay civil. You both seem to have valid points to make that would benefit both of you to hear. You could find C&C to be a game that you would actually like to give a longer try, while he could find SC to be a game that he would like to get good at to battle you. And I think others would respect you both more as well. |
It was not getting out of hand, but I guess thats not the point. I need to learn to be more PC or polite? Not using the word newbie sounds like PC to me. Fine I'll try. It was not a bait, are you baiting me here by saying that I baited there?  Btw I actually spent some time when I posted then, at first it was way too offensive (well it was the same but looked evil). I was actually aiming to get the things said and not even getting any reply. Maybe I need to learn more english.
What comes to that last paragragh, you can't possibly know how much I know about rts 
If I ever get banned it will be a miracle, because I'm not dumbass but thanks for warning anyway
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10-10-2002 09:22
So tell me, what are the paths? 
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