20-10-2002 21:03									#31
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Hey everyonnnnneee...
A new expansion means less ressources for Civ IV or other projects! Just look at Rogue Spear that got something like 5 expansions, and nothing new for many many years!! Borrring!!

	21-10-2002 00:37									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Trip And the funny thing is people always repeat that complaint, but never respond to it. They make it seem like Firaxis is holding them hostage, because they can't get their new civ 'fix', so they complain about it, since they want it, but they want it free. Damn life sucks huh?

Yeah, I don't expect marc420 to respond to the responses thread. Why do they flame and never return, it really undercuts their argument when they don't respond and back up their argument. Or worse, like some notorious posters, flame then ignore the responses, then move to a different thread, never answering the responses. Sigh.

	21-10-2002 00:46									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna Hey everyonnnnneee... A new expansion means less ressources for Civ IV or other projects! Just look at Rogue Spear that got something like 5 expansions, and nothing new for many many years!! Borrring!!

I don't see how the expansions would harm Civ4. If anything, it probably helps it out. More sales now means that the company will be financially stronger and that Infogrames will support the next game more fully-devote more resources to.

Its taken 4-5 years to get each new game out, I would rather reach the potential of each game before moving to the next.

	21-10-2002 17:18									#34
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All I ask for is SMAC style UN, politics and diplomacy, is that too much to ask for? huh?

	21-10-2002 18:23									#35
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I'm with asleepathewheel (uhh, such a long name; can I call you sleepy? ) on this one. We won't see a civ4 in the next 4 years, so why not concentrate on making a "perfect" (I know there's no such thing) civ3 ?

This XP is especially about MP. To sell the next one, they must find a lot of appealling new features.

I'd like to see (and I expect) some of these:

- improved diplomacy and trade system(especially a useful UN)
- more interesting modern era
- some "cool" new features (like peaceful great leaders)
- new wonders and/or buildings and/or units
- improved scenario and customization capabilities and tons of scenarios and maps
- other things from the "wish list"
- 8 new civs (maybe even new civ traits)

	22-10-2002 03:18									#36
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I think that they should only do two expansion packs, if they even decide for another. In it, I should like to see...

~ Improved Diplomacy and UN
~ The Eiffle Tower Great Wonder (perhaps even two modern minor or great wonders...The Chunnel and City on the Sea)
~ More Units for each era
~ Better World Maps
~ Scenarios
~ More terrain features
~ 6 more civs...
The Dutch, William of Orange
The Ethiopians, Zawditu
The Polynesians...
The Israelites, David
The Portuguese, Don Juan II
The Inca, Atahualpa

	22-10-2002 04:10									#37
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For my part, I'd just LOVE to see in expansion with an Editor capable of letting you add/edit:

1) Terrain improvements.
2) Diplomacy options and diplomatic stances.
3) Events (mostly so I can add Dark Ages and Civil Wars-Hint, Hint )

If they did that, then I would be truly content .

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

	23-10-2002 00:25									#38
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Civs:

Ethiopia/Ethiopians/Ethiopian
Queen Zawditu
Aksum
Militaristic/Religious
Great Leaders: Ezam, Zara Yakob, Siyon, Iyusu, Menelik, Haile Selassie
Sarwe (pikeman): 1/3/2 (reqs. iron)

Holland/Dutch/Dutch
Stadholder William of Orange
Amsterdam
Commercial/Scientific
Great Leaders: Maurice, De Witt, Hudson, Tasman, William III, William IV
Ship-of-the-Line (galleon): 2/2/4 (carries 4 or 5 units) (reqs. iron & saltpeter)

Incas/Incas/Inca
Inca Athualpa
Cuzco
Religious/Industrious
Great Leaders: Manco Capac, Pachacutec, Huayna Capac, Huascar, Titu Cosi, Tupac Amaru
Sun Warrior (spearman): 2/2/1

Israel/Israelites/Israelite
King David
Jerusalem
Religious/Commercial
Great Leaders: Moses, Aaron, Saul, Solomon, Hezekiah, Maccabeus
Slinger (archer): 2/1/2

Polynesia/Polynesians/Polynesian
King Kamehameha
Honaunau
Expansionist/Commercial
Great Leaders: Hongi, Te Rauparaha, Cakobau, Tupuo, Tohu, Liliuokalani
Double Canoe (galley): 1/1/3 (does not sink in ocean squares)

Portugal/Portuguese/Portuguese
King Manuel
Lisbon
Expansionist/Commercial
Great Leaders: Henry, Afonso, Cabral, de Gama, Magellan, Albuquerque
Nao (caravel): 2/2/4 (carries the 3 or 4 units regular caravel carries)

Last edited by History Guy on 23-10-2002 at 02:13

	24-10-2002 04:56									#39
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If it were me I would now include
Inca (Rel/Ind)
Dutch (Sci/Exp)
Byzantines (Ind/Com)
Hebrews (Rel/Com)
Ethiopia/Songhai Ethiopiarel Songhai= Com/Exp?
Portugese exp/com

	24-10-2002 06:05									#40
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I hope that the next xp includes either a fantasy mod or a sci fi/futuristic mod. I liked that about ToT, I could play 3 almost completely different games. That would allow for more creativity on the civ trait front. I don't care if there are more historical civs, I think 24 is plenty. :P

	24-10-2002 06:11									#41
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The next xp should include a graft of SMAC onto the civ3 world: just take all the techs from SMAC and add two or three new ages in civ3. While they're doing that take all the rest from SMAC (governments, UN, units, nervegas) and put it in cvi3. Then just play civ3 straight onto SMAC.

	24-10-2002 06:13									#42
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Damn, I see an obssesion here...

	24-10-2002 06:14									#43
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But aahz, the world was destroyed by a nuclear holocaust near the start of SMAC as wasn't rebuilt until I sent my incarnation back to restore it.

	24-10-2002 06:19									#44
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Well, with the tech in SMAC I'm sure there's a way to make it all good.... Transplaner dimetric wave opticobioquantum synthohol should do the trick.

	25-10-2002 00:50									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 This is one reason I really do not like The Sims' series. 200 dollars for a game is really not worth it. Sure, some of them actually add something other than objects but most of them are just...junk. But what annoys me most is PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY THEM ALL. I know people who have bought *ALL* of them plus the Special Offer (The Sims + Livin Large Expansion for only 30 dollars) because the Special Offer has a "Make-A-Sim" creator or something to that nature? Ugh. I sometimes have to sit back and wonder "How stupid can someone get..."

Thats ur point of view. Some people like the XP just fine the way it is. Even if total adds up to 300+ dollars. And for special ed, some people just like collecting. I bought my Evangelion DVD series even though I had all the VHS... It wasn't a matter of getting new things at that point but just to collect and have...

quote: Unless Firaxis releases an expansion that has more 'bang for the buck', I'm not buying it. And I really dont see why other people are as well. But hey, thats just my opinion.

True, though I dont usually buy my games so getting burned out of my cash once or twice doesnt really add up to a net loss IMO.... (and I personally thinhk PtW is alright so..)

	25-10-2002 07:14									#46
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of course there should be new xp! the more the better

ok seriously, the Quality is the most important thing.