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Bereta_Eder
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why should i provide links since i havent been disproven in anything i said?
unlike you.
and about israel i was ASKING. like ive been doing about all other matters. and in israel what you said was finally true, unlike the others things u said.
so you either stop discussing with me since you claim all is lies or you trust me and we continue. (at a later date though)
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:23
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Originally posted by paiktis22
and you still havent gotten thru your skull that the human rights court cant enforce anything.
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No court has the authority to enforce anything, sillykins. The United States Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to enforce any of its own rulings. That's why if the executive branch chooses to ignore it, then SCOTUS is powerless to stop it. That's what happened during the Civil War and Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus.
As I said, a court's authority to enforce extends just as far as its rulings are abided by. Since ALL of the EU's Human Rights Court's rulings have thus far been abided by, then it has de facto authority in its rulings. You can't say a court whose rulings are always obeyed has no authority. Clearly, whether it is written into law or not, this court has established a jurisdiction in which its rulings are followed, which included the UK ban against gays.
Capiche?
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 17-11-2002 at 22:05
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Bereta_Eder
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the european court has the power to enforce its rulkings can even get out punishments if these are not enforced.
the human rights court is only worth the paper its written on
i didnt even read more than the 1 line you wrote.
dont waste my time with your ignorance about this please.
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Bereta_Eder
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ypu keep repeating the same things.
if you want to "beat" your opponent go somewhere else. or i will.
the european court of justice can enforce things the ECHR can do jack ass.
plain as the say and were you in any real conversation with any real people who know about these things you would already make yourself look like a fool.
german women, yes an exception.
i wont read besides a point if what you write is to "substanciate" apoint which is false and i know it is. objectively. (not a matter of opinion)
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SpencerH
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Co-Ruler of my patch of land south of Birmingham Alabama
Feb 2002
time: 23:23
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Boris, I agree that it makes less of a difference when you're crawling throught the tall grass than while sitting around on base somewhere. I believe MtG said pretty much the same thing.
The point keeps that keeps coming up though, is that the integration of gays into previously overt hetero organizations such as the military have only been successful in regions of the US and in other countries that already have less hostile attitudes towards gays than are common in the USA. Interestingly, Gen. Bradley made a similar point when Truman announced forced integration of the blacks into the US military.
Do you really expect acceptance by the military in a country where gay marriages (for example) are either illegal or do not have the same legal standing as hetero marriages?
Last edited by SpencerH on 17-11-2002 at 22:34
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Bereta_Eder
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read up the thread poor boris.
if you can't afford to, keep believing you actually made a point.
jesus, you live in your own fantasy land.
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Bereta_Eder
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You're just pissed that the EU has no authority over this matter.
No matter how much you think you "defeated me the matter stays.
Don't bother replying since you're so much over it.
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Bereta_Eder
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whatever my poor boris whatever.
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17-11-2002 12:15
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This is sad, Patty... let it go. You can run away and live to fight another day, when you will have an actual valid point to make about some topic (not sure what that would be yet, though).
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