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Donegeal is offline Donegeal
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 02:32
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I don't see it as a flaw... I see it as a fact. You are completely right. As long as we have a contract with your team, we will abide by that contract. If you fail to make a payment or in some other way violate the contract, said contract is voided.

I'm just saying that no matter what the situation, it will be in the Glories best interest to follow each contract to its fullfilment. It we don't, or if we violate our own contract, then no one will trust us and no one will sign another contract with us.

UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 02:45
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Just to clarify some things on how this works.

1. We will not reveal the identity of any of our employers. Your secret is safe with us. Legoland wants to smash Vox Controli while maintaining a peacefull appearance, who are we to judge? Some roleplay member wants us to pillage another member's holdings, what do we care? As long as we are paid, there is no reason to tell who our employer is. Failure to pay, though...

2. We will not accept conflicting contracts. If we already have a contract to take two cities from Legoland, we will not accept a counter contract from them till our previous one is met. (Of course, if a part of their counter proposal is to GIVE us those cities, it would fulfill the first contract...) All contracts will be completed as agreed upon, and we expect the same with your end of the contract.

3. Payment will be made in several forms, likely with an up front and upon completion cost depending on the nature of the contract. Various forms of payment being considered are Workers, Cash, Tech, Cities, and Artillery units (allow us to 'capture' x # catapults).

Meshelic is offline Meshelic
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 03:42
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Donegal - that's all I wanted to get out of you.

Unorthodox - Thanks for the clarification on that.

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 06:44
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A question the must be asked of the GoW: if you are employed to destroy another civ, what would you do with it? Keep it? That might limit your employment prospects somewhat, as no-one would want to see you become a super-civ (except you, of course).

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Panzer32 is offline Panzer32
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 09:00
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GeneralTacticus:

I believe that this would be specified in the contract. I imagine that some teams would want to keep the cities, in which case we would give them, say, 75% of captured cities. In some other cases, teams may want to keep their identities a secret, in which case, we may pilliage 75% of the cities, leaving room for the other team to settle there. All of these are dependant on what the goal of the war is for.

UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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  Old Post 07-12-2002 20:40
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True. We are not opposed to capturing cities then gifting them to someone else. (Or, if you prefer a more anonymous role, allowing you to declare war on us and 'capture' those cities you wanted...) All depends on what YOU want, we are here to serve.

Theseus is offline Theseus

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  Old Post 08-12-2002 02:13
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Does GoW desire to win the game, or simply to serve as honorable mercs throughout?

For those who know the names, are you Falkenberg or Graeme?

Admiral PJ is offline Admiral PJ
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  Old Post 08-12-2002 04:55
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Lux Invicta sends its greetings to the almighty Glory of War, we look forward to some interesting encounters with you, and hope we can tame the savage celtic tribes, and bring some order and justice throughout the world.

Soon we should exchange ambassadors so we can negotiate our relationships and try and cooperate where we have areas of similarity.

Even if you just want to negotiate surrender, diplomacy will still be useful to your warlike strategies.

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alva is offline alva
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  Old Post 08-12-2002 05:23
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Just a question,

What happens if you can't fulfill 'the' contract yourselves ??
Do you return the money,....??

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reminds me of that Steve Miller song

*Meshelic sings "go on,...take the money and run, ooh yeah, go on take the money and run...."

Panzer32 is offline Panzer32
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  Old Post 08-12-2002 07:06
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alva,

I believe that when a contract is hammered out, it would include what would happen if the GoW is unsucessful in its goals. Obviously, you can't return technology, but we may let the customer have a city or something along with new tech, workers, bombard units, resource, or something of that nature. There would also be some time constraint on the whole thing. It all depends on what the customer wants and expects.

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Just a question,

What happens if you can't fulfill 'the' contract yourselves ??

Is that even possible?

The GoW not being able to fulfill its part of the contract? You're really grasping for straws there, aren't you!

Zero is offline Zero
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wat if we hire a huge reward for fighting urselves?

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wat if we hire a huge reward for fighting urselves?

We'd win.

Zero is offline Zero
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thats a good answer

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No one ever answered my question... does GoW intend to try to win the game, or simply to play a merc role?

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quote:
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No one ever answered my question... does GoW intend to try to win the game, or simply to play a merc role?

What are you willing to pay us for the answer?

UnOrthOdOx is offline UnOrthOdOx
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No one ever answered my question... does GoW intend to try to win the game, or simply to play a merc role?


We decided that it was in our best interest to have as much fun as possible. This meant adopting the Mercenary Role. We are perfectly content to sit back and be hired against the other teams win or lose, but if we find ourselves in a position where victory is possible, we will of course take it.

So, yes and no. We are happy to simply play the merc role, (much like the roleplay team, but none of us have to be chamber pot cleaner... ) However, we are not opposed to winning either.

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(....none of us have to be chamber pot cleaner...)


Of course not, that's the Roleplay team's job.

 
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