27-11-2002 20:11									#31
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	27-11-2002 20:14									#32
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I liked Seth Green.

But I. MISS. TARA.

	27-11-2002 20:42									#33
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It just released an ancient vampire on the town, and man was it scary looking.

It looked a lot like the Master to me. What's up with the principal as well?

	27-11-2002 20:46									#34
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The buffy movie is not even worth mentioning. Joss Whedon (the guy that writes/directs/etc both the movie and the show) has stated that the movie is nothing like what he wanted it to be.

Secondly, does anyone know when Series 7 starts in the UK? Sky.com is worthless and the only site I've found with a starting date puts it in January

Oh, and bring back Glory. She was my fave Big Bad!

From beneath you it devours!

	27-11-2002 20:52									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Oh, and bring back Glory. She was my fave Big Bad!

Glory was evil incarnate and deserves never to be seen again if only for the fact that her appearence caused Dawn to appear a character they have only just now made tolerable.

	27-11-2002 20:56									#36
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charisma carpenter is hottest(i know she isn't in buffy anymore i just thought it needed saying)

	27-11-2002 20:57									#37
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She's on Angel which is close enough.

	27-11-2002 21:00									#38
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I know but some fans can be a bit anal about these sort of programmes

	27-11-2002 21:10									#39
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The magnificent Glorificus shall not be talked about in such a way! Her most incandescent shininess is beyond such description by a lower being such as yourself Dino! The naughty-thought-and-sweaty-dreams-causing one shall have your head served to Her on a silver platter with a tasteful arrangement of garnishes.

	27-11-2002 21:14									#40
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You'd make an excellent toady.

	27-11-2002 21:14									#41
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Glory was cool. I hear Jonathan dies in series 7.

	27-11-2002 21:17									#42
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Yes, he does. Andrew guts him.

	27-11-2002 21:30									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Yes, he does. Andrew guts him.

Really? Why?

And will Tara come back?

	27-11-2002 21:31									#44
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Really? Why?

That would be telling.

quote: And will Tara come back?

No.

	27-11-2002 21:33									#45
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To just be in the presence of The most radiant and splendid One is more than enough to fulfil the life of this lowly degenerate minion.

	27-11-2002 21:33									#46
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Amber Benson's contract negotiations fell through. So Tara won't be returning any time soon.

	27-11-2002 21:34									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild To just be in the presence of The most radiant and splendid One is more than enough to fulfil the life of this lowly degenerate minion.

Everything named Glory is utterly wonderful.


*cough* www.glory.8k.com *cough*

	27-11-2002 21:36									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Andrew1999 Amber Benson's contract negotiations fell through. So Tara won't be returning any time soon.

Is there a source to this? I didn't know this happened.

	27-11-2002 21:45									#49
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc only for the fact that her appearence caused Dawn to appear a character they have only just now made tolerable.

She was bound to be intolerable, she was playing a 14 year old younger sister. They are supposed to be intolerable.

	27-11-2002 21:49									#50
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Is there a source to this? I didn't know this happened.

Well, I got it from Ain't It Cool, but I'm sure I've seen it elsewhere on the Internet.

I'm apparently one of the few people that didn't absolutely love or hate Tara.

"Sometimes I think about the two of them doing a spell...and then I do a spell by myself."

	27-11-2002 21:53									#51
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"No one can stand against Her Blindingly Scrumptious Luminescence!"

Gawd I love those minions.

	28-11-2002 03:05									#52
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Ming, sod off! BtVS is a wonderful show, one that is well worth obsessing over and TV-wise, I would say that it is at least the equal to Babylon 5, if not more daring in form and structure. The man in charge of the show, Joss Whedon, understands TV and how shows should be paced and arced, and he has the confidence to succeed in things such as the musical episode and the episode where the characters couldn't speak for 40 straight minutes.

Btw, I have seasons 4-7 on video, the first 2 DVD collections, a number of season 5 and 6 eps downloaded and burned to CD (including the entirety of OMWF) and a number of non-fiction books about Buffy. My wife and I are big fans, and are always willing to talk Buffy.

Btw, the new season doesn't start until January in the UK, and there won't be any new shows in the US until January 17th, 2003.

My fave big bads:

Glory - You go girl!
Mayor - Laughed a bit too much, but did have his moments. Liked his confidence, too.
Willow -
Master - A decent start.
Angel - Just leave, already!!!!
Adam - Was anybody really worried about this guy?

The ladies of BtVS, ranked by attractiveness:

Good Willow -
Tara - She just needs some reassurance and some love.
Faith - For a good time, call...
Buffy - Of course.
Kendra - Rowr!
Glory - Probably a blast when drunk.
Anya - Nice bod.
Cordy - Sometimes, personality does matter.
Drusilla - Hot, but Dru has too many "issues" to make a successful partner, if you know what I mean...
Scary-Veiny Willow - Dude, you're scaring me!

	28-11-2002 03:12									#53
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Has anyone aside from me checked out the Metaphysics of Buffy site yet? It's an excellent site with loads of indepth details and discussions.

http://www.atpobtvs.com/index.html

Unfortunately it's down at the moment

"Can't even shout, Can't even cry, The Gentlemen are coming by. Passing by windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word.

You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard."

	28-11-2002 03:34									#54
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Amber Benson isn't coming back, which is why she didn't appear 2 episodes ago.

All have signed on to Season 8 except SMG.

Glory does have good minions, doesn't she? Remember Harmony and her minions?

"Slayer, at last we meet!"
"Harmony, we went to high school together!"

	28-11-2002 03:36									#55
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I liked the original movie because of the tongue in cheek nature. Nick Cage the vampire is terribly funny in his death scene.

I didn't really like Glory all that much, but I can see why gay boys might like someone as "fabulous" as she was. Personally, my favorite villans were the Gentlemen. No one ever creeped me out as much as they did, until the flesh eating whispering ghoul the first episide of season seven (course he looks like the Gentlemen). Drusilla and Spike were the best villains. Dru is still an awesome villainess in Angel. Love Dru. She could sire me anytime.

The villain this season is awesome! We don't even know who the heck it is yet, aside from being "The First Evil." The way it's playing with everyone, as someone different. Last night's episode was kick ass.

	28-11-2002 03:38									#56
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Harmony and her minions? "Slayer, at last we meet!" "Harmony, we went to high school together!"

Amber Benson was cut. It wasn't that her contract fell though. Her character was killed for the story, like Buffy's mom. Giles has his own tv show in Britain. It's so weird to see Giles acting like a stud.

	28-11-2002 03:44									#57
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Amber Benson was cut. It wasn't that her contract fell though. Her character was killed for the story, like Buffy's mom. Giles has his own tv show in Britain. It's so weird to see Giles acting like a stud.

What does the character being dead have to do with anything? Nobody stays in the ground in Sunnydale, burial is just a big waste of time. She was planned to come back as some spirit/ghost/whatever.

I like Vampire Willow from season 3

	28-11-2002 03:55									#58
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Vampire Willow was fun, yes. Much better than evil veiny Willow.

From what I've read, Amber was cut permanently, in order to develop Willow's character and to build story. It may be the case that contract negotiations fell through for her to come back as dreams and images. But that's not why she was killed. It's too bad, cuz I really liked Tara.

	28-11-2002 03:59									#59
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Dino, yeah, the vampire last night looked like the Master, but not totally. And since the Master appeared to Spike in a vision earlier in the season, if they wanted it to be him, they could easily have done it. I suspect that ancient vampires all look like nasferatu. (Except for "that ponce" Dracula, as Spike called him. They could have done so much more with Dracula. ) I don't think that the new vampire is even the ultimate big bad this season.

	28-11-2002 04:00									#60
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I agree with you there, her death served to advance the story. I was just focusing on why she wouldn't be coming back.

I think Anya needs to go too. She's long since lost whatever value she added to the group from a story perspective.