10-12-2002 16:50									#31
	Increase Your PM Length

However, when we get to higher level defensive units (1-3+t-1 for instance), the cost to make the garrison a rover starts increasing, while if the garrison remains an infantry unit, the cost remains at 20 minerals base (Adjusted for Industry of course).

	10-12-2002 17:18									#32
	Inflate your Upload Space

Right, but I think we should consider building 1-3t-2 anyway, just because it´s the best defensiv unit we´ll have then.

	10-12-2002 21:16									#33
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

well lets first just make these rovers and lets not look in to the future to much we need first a base to build our military from

	10-12-2002 21:33									#34
	Tired of ads?

Yes, you´re right.
Is the concentration on biotechnics (B5) already planned by the MoS? If not, do it! Once we get this, our units don´t need to be maintained any longer, so there´s no need for a "base to build our military from"...

	10-12-2002 21:38									#35
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

no the first direction the DoS is making is towards fossiel fuels. the main though in be beginning of the war with the hive was that we needed better weapons...then we didnt have the gatling technology yet...now that we have it is less importent but still i would like to see that fossel fuels will be researched soon...biothechnics will make the units more independed but also more costly if we are suddenly attack by the hive i will advice to go towards that technology

	11-12-2002 02:00									#36
	Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword prelim. DPO orders: TD situation: 1)design unit 1-2t-2 2)build unit 1-2t-2 in TD 2b)rush build in TD 3)move scout from pandemonium to (15,17) 4)build 1-2t-1 in pandemonium 4b)rush build in pandemonium 5)lets see what te worm does

I finally was able to have a look at the save file. I'm quite busy as I have a small Statistics exam tomorrow at Terminal Dogma's Political Sciences department.

First, Terminal Dogma is in drone riot due to the panic and mind attacks caused by the mind worms. Hurrying isn't possible. So I'd suggest to just keep the current build (former). Next turn, when TD is no longer rioting, and if the unit hurried in Pandemonium looses as well against the mind worm, we can change TD's build queue to a Trance Scout Skirmisher if needed.

I'd suggest rushing a 1-2t-2 Trance Scout Skirmisher in Pandemonium for 82 ec. Expensive, but better than losing a couple more formers to that worm. We already lost one scout patrol and one former to the worm, and one more is to follow due to bureaucratic inefficiencies with changing TD's build queue. This needs to stop! The price in human lives and the slowdown of economic progress is already high enough!

With a rover being built in Pandemonium, it is no longer needed to move the police forces out of Pandemonium. Seeing the tense situation in Pandemonium and the current cries for revolution in that base , moving the garrison out of Pandemonium would lead to severe drone riots.

What d'ye think?

	11-12-2002 02:14									#37
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

well my stupid regional captian didnt tell me that there were drone riots in TD. this will change the tactics totally i will look again but agree with the major line of your idea. but i would like to have a garrison in TD before another build but if changing building order cause mineral losses then first build the former if not build a garrison in TD.

	11-12-2002 19:56									#38
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

UPDATED prelim. DPO orders:
Changed orders are like this
TD situation:
1)design unit 1-2t-2
2)build unit 1-2t-2 in TD IF no minerals are lost by the change and rush as soon as possible
3)move scout from pandemonium to (15,17)
4)build 1-2t-2 in pandemonium
4b)rush build in pandemonium
5)lets see what te worm does
IF it attacks TD then:
6a) it is done and we have lost some things in TD
IF it attacks the scout:
6b)hope scout wins
if not:
7a)next turn use 1-2t-2 from pandemonium to destory worm
IF worm does nothing:
6c)attack next turn with 1-2t-2 from TD or pandemonium to destroy worm
If worm flees:
6d) hunt it with 1-2t-2 from TD after a new garrison it build

Antioch:
put a 2-1t-4 in buildingqueue (or a 1-2t-4?)
put a probe foil in buildingqueue

TBIBTU:
put a 2-1t-4 in buildingqueue (or a 1-2t-4?)
attack worm with scout

NS:
put a probe foil in buildingqueue

ZG:
use 2-1t-4 to pop pods in freshwater Sea BUT ONLY IF foil got FULL movement

Sheathed Sword:
put some kind of scout unit in buildingqueue (long planning not importent)

	12-12-2002 01:25									#39
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: 3)move scout from pandemonium to (15,17)

If I move that police infantry out of Pandemonium I have one talent and three drones. I can only prevent drone riots if I move two workers out of the field, which would a year later result in the starvation of 10000 citizens due to insufficient nutrient reserves.

	12-12-2002 01:29									#40
	Get a bigger avatar today!

yes but if we dont do it the it is certain we will lose a former in TD.....so what is more importent....pandemoniums citizens are more importent.......to bad for that former

	13-12-2002 14:53									#41
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Can anyone give me the links for the latest poll of the director of foreign affairs ?

	13-12-2002 14:59									#42
	Support Apolyton

As the orders taken from the last one (which was quite a while ago) haven't been carried out, I saw no reason to post a new one. I can do so if you wish.

	15-12-2002 21:01									#43
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

prelim. DPO:
1 scout in UNPD
move to ZG

1 scout in ZG
move for escort of CP that goes to [5.113]

turn 2209
new scout build in ZG
move to [19.107]

[i]foil in FWsea[i/]
pop pods in the FWsea BUT ONLY IF IT HAS FULL MOVEMENT
attack any IOD that comes out
when done move to NS
when in NS wait until it is 100%
when 100% move to [35.95]

	19-12-2002 18:50									#44
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

prelim. DPO:

BuildingRequests:

Pandemonium:
2nd in queue:
Infantry: [5-1-1]

TBIBTU:
2nd in queue:
Infantry: [5-1-1]

Tac Ac:
3rd in queue:
Rover: [5-1-2]
Crystalis:
2nd in queue:
infantry:[1-3t-1]
UNPD:
2nd in queue:
rover: [5-1-2]

[to governers: please put these requests in your building orders. if you have a better place where these units can be build please inform me. if you think they have to be put somewhere else in the queue also pleace inform me.]

[2-1t-4] from ZG at [20.100] in the FWsea
*move to new base south of it
*wait until it is 100%
*pop pods usual way

garrison in Crystalis
attack worm N of base at [27.103]

[2-1t-4] from Antioch at [127.81]
*under DEI control execpt when:
**IOD is within range
**enemy ship is within range

[1-2t-2] from Sheathed Sword at [12.62]
*stay in Sheathed Sword execpt when:
**worm is within range
**enemy lands near TD or some where else in this Region

[2-1t-4] from TBIBTU at [19.77]
*move to TBIBTU
*stay there until 100%
*give DEI control

[if better weapons or armor come availible put use them in above order units]

	20-12-2002 09:24									#45
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Requests granted, if grudgingly (how much longer will my citizens have to wait for their new Energy Banks or Research Hospitals!? Far too long).

	20-12-2002 14:44									#46
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

You can decide not to I think. I'm not sure the DPO is allowed to order Governors about build queues, isn't that up to the DIA?

I agree with GTs sentiment, we need infrastructure and facilities.

	20-12-2002 15:01									#47
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

The main reason I agreed to grant his request was that it will onyl take a couple of turns to build the infantry, due to their lack of armour. Next time, unless we have a pressing need for them, any military units go to the bottom of the queue and stay there until we have nothing else to build.

	20-12-2002 22:50									#48
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Even if the DPO is officially suppose to go through the official channels of requesting a build with the DIA, I don’t see what the problem is of just asking the governors themselves, since they are the ones that will carry the order out.

And one question in regards to this, can the DIA order the governors to place a certain item in a certain position on the queue, can does his power only extend to ordering the governors to place the item in the queue, leaving the governor the discretion of where it should go?

	20-12-2002 22:57									#49
	Got spare money?

Bah! My citizens don't see any need for militarizing Pandemonium! I think it's just a trick by the DLP government in New Apolyton to weaken the CCCP and STEP influence in that base. Besides, shouldn't there be a poll whether or not our citizens want military units, how many military units, and what type of units? I'd like a discussion on that. For instance I don't like best-1-1 units. But for the moment I'll order construction of the unit.

	20-12-2002 23:04									#50
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I agree with Maniac and Voltaire. DBTS: Methinks we need some polls

	21-12-2002 05:51									#51
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Maniac: In case you haven't noticed, it was DBTS who asked for infantry in Pandemonium, he's not a DLP member, he asked for more from Centralis, and building troops there would actually strengthen the CCCP and STEP by giving them access to part of the military?

	21-12-2002 19:21									#52
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

i requested them....if you think they cant be build there then dont build them but dont go and start crying when we lose bases or formers to worms and the hive....about polling for types of units....there a LOT of different kind of strategics for building units...and everone uses them differently....and i have no clue how to poll that....if you do please poll and I will make them official but i dont think polling will help debate i am all for.

	22-12-2002 03:44									#53
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Just RPing... I see libertarian conspiracies everywhere!!

For unit polls, perhaps something like this???
"What of the following units should we build for our military?:"
best-1-1
best-best-1
best-1-2
best-best-2
1-best-1
1-best-2

	22-12-2002 19:00									#54
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

great idea i will poll it....soon after i have seen the SAV