06-12-2002 04:32									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: John Lennon was sure to run for president some day, that's why they had him killed... Um.... John Lennon couldn't run for President. You have to be born in the US to be President.

That's why they had him born in the UK!

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: John Lennon was sure to run for president some day, that's why they had him killed... Um.... John Lennon couldn't run for President. You have to be born in the US to be President.

Is that the actual rule - if so when was it introduced, because George Washington and several other presidents weren't born in the US. They were born in English colonies.

	06-12-2002 04:39									#93
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It is a rule. IIRC, you also have to be 40 years old or older?

I don't know when it was enacted. Obviously it was quite a bit after the country was founded...

	06-12-2002 04:41									#94
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The age is 35 IIRC.

I'm surprised though. Surely there are many Americans born outside the US. Does this mean they cannot become US President on a technicality?

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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin The age is 35 IIRC. I'm surprised though. Surely there are many Americans born outside the US. Does this mean they cannot become US President on a technicality?

35 is correct. If they are born outside of the US to US citizens, then they are US citizens and can run for president. I'm pretty sure.

	06-12-2002 04:53									#96
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley 35 is correct. If they are born outside of the US to US citizens, then they are US citizens and can run for president. I'm pretty sure.

I am not so sure this is true. Perhaps both parents have to be citizens. A guy I know from highschool knocked up a Venezuelan chick this year and they went back to Venezuela to get married and have the kid. I think there was some turmoil because they thought the baby wouldn't have U.S. citizenship.

	06-12-2002 04:54									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Does this mean they cannot become US President on a technicality?

No one has ever tested it.

	06-12-2002 04:58									#98
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quote: Is that the actual rule - if so when was it introduced, because George Washington and several other presidents weren't born in the US. They were born in English colonies.

Yes, that is the actual rule. It's in the Constitution.

Section 2, Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The Founders were dealt with in the 'citizen at the time of this Constitution' .

	06-12-2002 05:07									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Is that the actual rule - if so when was it introduced, because George Washington and several other presidents weren't born in the US. They were born in English colonies. Yes, that is the actual rule. It's in the Constitution. Section 2, Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. The Founders were dealt with in the 'citizen at the time of this Constitution' .

So what would have stopped John Lennon becoming President if the UK adopted the US constitution?

	06-12-2002 05:08									#100
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We haven't annexed you yet .

	06-12-2002 05:34									#101
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CBeast!

	06-12-2002 06:04									#102
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Thanks to STYOM for his vote of confidence

The US could use a dose of libertarianism in its foreign policy.

	06-12-2002 06:06									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Asher He's not a big fan of meddling around with other countries, donates billions of dollars to charities, and co-founded and ran one of the most successful companies in history.

For a second I thought you meant Ross Perot

	06-12-2002 06:31									#104
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Gandhi

	07-12-2002 06:21									#105
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Okay, so I'm a bit late to the thread, but there's a name I can't believe got missed.

Ron Paul.

Of all the people I can think of who actually have a shot at the post, he's the one I'd like to see there.

Wraith
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"No, Tick. We're with the government."
"Well, no thanks. We've got all the government we need."
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	07-12-2002 06:25									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov CBeast!

One more of those from you Boris, and you are toast.

	07-12-2002 06:29									#107
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quote: One more of those from you Boris, and you are toast.

I don't get it...

	07-12-2002 06:49									#108
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Dude, that was like, sooooooo long ago!

And I was on subject.

I would like to see Edwin C. Beast, affectionately known as "CBeast" by his family and friends, of Muncie, IN to be the President. I think he'd be outstanding.

	07-12-2002 06:52									#109
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WuTang would be awesome for president, but IMHO

we need a child prodigy, forget the age req, we're better off with

-Doogie Howser
OR
-Dexter

or Ming wouldnt be too bad either, but he might just end up banning all of US citizens

	07-12-2002 06:55									#110
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quote: John Lennon couldn't run for President. You have to be born in the US to be President.

Is that true? What if your parents just happened to be on holiday at the time?

	07-12-2002 06:59									#111
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can't. Ya gotta be natural citizen of US. unless you run to the nearest US embassy, that counts as US soil.

	07-12-2002 07:03									#112
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I'd like to see that rule contested. Are there any major US politicians who were born to US parents but outside of the US?

	07-12-2002 07:11									#113
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Terry Pratchett.

	07-12-2002 07:18									#114
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Many... we have many naturalized US citizen who is US politician. Many dont even have US parents.

but they cant run for presidency.

EDIT: actually I dont know about the "Many" part but I know we some. Not sure on numbers so i cant be sure if we have "many"

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So what would happen if it was proven that Dubya was actually born in international waters when the Bushes were on a cruise day trip?

	07-12-2002 07:32									#116
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Nothing the Supreme Court couldn't sort out.

	07-12-2002 07:46									#117
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A cyborg Nixon, ala Futurama.

NIXONS BACK!!!!!! (proceeds to destroy most of Washington)

Who's kicking who around now? As he crunches people.

Either that or a victorious Iraqi military Junta headed by Saddam Hussein.

	07-12-2002 07:50									#118
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im not sure about international waters... surely they must have a rule about that too.

What citizenship does a child get probably determines it.

	07-12-2002 07:52									#119
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we have position up to senator level whos immigrated here when he was little. I just gotta figure out his name.

He has a US parent but they are his adopted parents.

	07-12-2002 09:35									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Seneca quote: John Lennon couldn't run for President. You have to be born in the US to be President. Is that true? What if your parents just happened to be on holiday at the time?

Almost. You have to be born a U.S. citizen. That means (a) being born on U.S. soil or (b) having at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen.