21-12-2002 01:42									#31
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Thats not anti Greek! At the worst, (and I mean absolute worse case scenerio worse) it's anti-Chantz...which also it wasn't. Besides, I'm half Greek, and I can eat baklava, Falafel, and spinach rolls with the best of em.

	21-12-2002 03:01									#32
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I can eat baklava! Can I be tapped as an honorary Greek? If I get bonus points, I love Greek mythology, too!

	21-12-2002 10:22									#33
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG you were kicked from the IG forums for ant-greek comments and you come here?

That does seem somewhat foolhardy..........

	21-12-2002 15:02									#34
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if you're half-greek and think greeks are biased against turks, you are terrible at being a half-greek. you should try harder.

and everyone loves baklava, that doesnt count

	22-12-2002 05:33									#35
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My grandparents don't like Turks! And they're full blown greeks from Tesaloniki. MarkG, are you running Apolyton from Greece? Are you telling me that even after so many years, Greeks don' hold any anamosity against Turkey?

	22-12-2002 06:18									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Don K Hotay My grandparents don't like Turks! And they're full blown greeks from Tesaloniki

I'm from Alabama, USA and I hate W. That doesn't mean everyone from Alabama hates the man...

	22-12-2002 08:24									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon I'm from Alabama, USA and I hate W. That doesn't mean everyone from Alabama hates the man...

Well, I think you're getting at something Harry Potter. You are from Alabami, a southern state, and to a high degree, we can generalize the attitudes and worldviews carried by people of the south. You can do the same thing on a more national level, when you speak about the average Palestinian's view of an Israeli, or a Russian's view of a Chechen, or a Pakistani's view of an Indian....or yes, a Greek's opinion of a Turk. My Grandparents aren't hateful, so they do not feel that way about Turks, but the do poke fun and make jokes about Turks. And thats what I was doing, except in a much more lighthearted off beat way

edit: to quote Bill O'Reilly, "Mr. Potter, am I wrong?"

	22-12-2002 13:31									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Don K Hotay You are from Alabami, a southern state, and to a high degree, we can generalize the attitudes and worldviews carried by people of the south."

I guess I can see your point there. Just pick the most conservative/religious viewpoint and nine times out of ten you'd be dead on.

Be careful with the 'Alabami', though, if you ever come through these parts. Them hill peoples ah treet you like your disrespectin' 'The Bare' you come roun' talkin' that thar Yankee...

	22-12-2002 15:26									#39
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quote: MarkG, are you running Apolyton from Greece?

yes

quote: Are you telling me that even after so many years, Greeks don' hold any anamosity against Turkey?

you used two words: Turks and Turkey. i think that grand majority of greeks have learned to separate the people from their governors

	22-12-2002 19:16									#40
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Geeks like myself obviously haven't

	23-12-2002 18:57									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon I guess I can see your point there. Just pick the most conservative/religious viewpoint and nine times out of ten you'd be dead on. Be careful with the 'Alabami', though, if you ever come through these parts. Them hill peoples ah treet you like your disrespectin' 'The Bare' you come roun' talkin' that thar Yankee...

Hmm, sounds like Harry isn't from the South originally and hence his comments about those who are from this part of the country originally, like myself.

Oh, and you're right about the conservative aspect at least, which is only natural since people from the North look to the government to solve all their problems and hold their hands when life is "too rough" while folks in the south (the people who fought against a centralized, "all powerful", government) are more self-reliant and independant.

(Geeze, is anyone else bored while waiting on this game?)

	23-12-2002 21:15									#42
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Shoot, Dubbya's from the South and he can't create new government posts fast enough. I'm more Libertarian than anything. And yes, I'm bored out of my mind waiting this $&#$^% game...

	24-12-2002 00:18									#43
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I never knew Texas was "from the South" since I always figured they were more mid-west. I know Texas fought on the Confederate side during the civil war, but I don't think they are the "true south" whatever that's worth.

Hmm, what government jobs is he creating that weren't pressured on him by the demo's? Federal screener's, demo idea. Homeland security is more about re-organization than anything.

Except for the Libertarian views on legalizing drugs (and prostitution?) I agree with most of their views as well, except know that some "big government" ideas like police force, etc, should be paid for by all.

	29-12-2002 10:58									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon Shoot, Dubbya's from the South and he can't create new government posts fast enough. I'm more Libertarian than anything. And yes, I'm bored out of my mind waiting this $&#$^% game...

Connecticut is a Southern State? New one to me...

	29-12-2002 11:08									#45
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IG standards Mark?

Quote: As most people know, the game has officially been pushed back to the 4th Quarter; expect to see it on store shelves end of November! :End Quote.

As far as "the crash bugs are way in the endgame which may make them difficult to isolate"- Then why are the external BT's using their time to post such wonderful after action reports in single player? Is someone saying that not ONE of these BT's have experinced this crash, or have they all been told NOT to speak of this specifically in remarks, because of NDA's?

	29-12-2002 16:12									#46
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quote: As far as "the crash bugs are way in the endgame which may make them difficult to isolate"- Then why are the external BT's using their time to post such wonderful after action reports in single player? Is someone saying that not ONE of these BT's have experinced this crash, or have they all been told NOT to speak of this specifically in remarks, because of NDA's?

i think it's quite obvious that when it comes to posts by BT's the producers/developers would prefer them to post about how the gameplay is and not what kind of crashes they experienced. and since these crashes are intended to be fixed, it would be unfair for the game to talk about each of them.

after the release the BT's will be free to give their opinions on the bug fixing process

	03-01-2003 03:01									#47
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Infogrames' standards have not changed. Maximum profit. Further developement is on QS's dime so IG's primary concern is about market timing. I believe they have so many pre-sales orders that they expect to improve post-release sales with less competition and a higher quality product.

Remember, IG originally intended MOO III to be a first Quarter release. If it was a good idea last year, why is it not a good idea this year?

Quick Poll:

Do you think the delayed MOOIII release boosted Play The World sales?

	03-01-2003 03:54									#48
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Ok- our updates now need updating.

	03-01-2003 18:57									#49
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Connecticut is a Southern State?

What? Who are all these people? Why is everyone staring at me? WHERE ARE MY PANTS?!?!

	03-01-2003 20:23									#50
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There are no reproducible crash bugs in the latest build, that I know of, FWIW.

The reason the external testers aren't as likely to catch these late game MP bugs is that most of us, at least, can't play MP 8+ hours a day, and we have disparate schedules so it's harder for us to schedule any extended MP at all.

The internal QA people have it a bit easier on that front.

	05-01-2003 05:12									#51
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Hmm, play moo3 multiplayer for 8+ hours a day. Damn, sounds like a stressful job.

Where do I sign up?

	11-01-2003 04:27									#52
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quote: Infogrames' standards have not changed. Maximum profit. Further developement is on QS's dime so IG's primary concern is about market timing. I believe they have so many pre-sales orders that they expect to improve post-release sales with less competition and a higher quality product.

Actually, I think it has. If you consider "not going bankrupt" a standard. Maybe theyve learned from past mistakes (like Hero X), who knows?

	11-01-2003 23:44									#53
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Actually, according to market research that I've read, IG has made some decent profit in the console gaming industry as of late.

Green Lantern

	12-01-2003 08:03									#54
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I believe there was an IGMOO thread about their stock price lately. Not too promising. Romur has it theyre making feelers for a buyer.