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Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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you cannot truly love a person who doesn't love you back, david's mom didn't love him, and no matter how hard he tried, it was only an infatuation, and not true love he felt for her, his love was artificial just like him, she rejected him, and he wasn't pure, he was evil, he didn't grow, he was obsolete, he couldn't grow, he couldn't get over his shitty childhood


Yeah, you can love someone who doesn't love you back. I see it in kids quite often. Sometimes moms have the audacity to smack their kids around right in front of me and I see the kids sit there, take it and continue loving their tormentor. Childish love is largely a result of dependency. A child whose parents do not love him may continue to love them simply because his life depends upon them. In a way David simulates this condition. Furthermore I think that his "mom" did grow to love him, but succumbed to pressure from "Dad" and his "brother". Remember that David was capable of learning (they said he had heuristic capabilities). His growth was most obvious in the scenes at home. He made mistakes, like accidently almost drowning his brother, and he was gullible, like when his brother tricked him into snipping some of mom's hair. Kids do this too, and often suffer consequences way out of proportion to their offenses.

Sure his love began as artificial. A major point of the movie was David's quest for "real" love. On the way towards real love David had to learn to become an active principle, i.e., by making the journey, by learning to cooperate (with gigolo Joe) and by taking a risk to help another (gigolo Joe escaping the police). He had to cope with disillusionment and to consciously seperate himself from the very reason for his creation. Finally in the end the real blue fairy was not the statue at Coney Island, but the "real love" that the robots arranged for hi in the final sequence. Only then was he complete.

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Well, I liked it

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I thought the human-android "love" was there for the viewers to fill in for themselves--all open to interpretation. It was hinted at with the teddy bear. But the reference would have been just as good with a family dog, etc.

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What I found to be the most disturbing about this film is that love could be made artificialy.

Like a potion or pill

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Need not be high tech either. Just go to the pound. Read old yeller, etc.

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What I found to be the most disturbing about this film is that love could be made artificialy.

Like a potion or pill


Come on Docfeelgood, you've worked in an ER right? You know perfectly well that for some folks it would be better if they tried out loving a robot first. There would be fewer lives lost and/or ruined.

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How do you get the beings at the end are mecha? When they speak of humans they talk about how they are so different, how the boy is their only connection to them. They never say they are mecha or that humans are their creator. You could watch the film and come to that assumption as easily as you could assume they are aliens with an incredible curiosity for an alien race different from themselves. Likewise with the euthanasia. This is an assumption but not clearly stated by the film. If a viewer does not come to the same assumption their is only the filmaker to blaim.

I thought the movie was incredible up until the ending at which point it screwed up entirely.

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ooohhh

a robotic love slave?

wonder how much one would cost

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"How do you get the beings at the end are mecha?"

Easy. Spielberg said that they are mecha. Then work backwards.

 
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