17-12-2002 00:39									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident windows 98. I have never had problems until recently. I'm still not sure what to do about it. But after my last windows problem (as a result of that xupiter thing), I was glad to have DOS so I could save my files. Does ME have DOS on it? I cannot live without DOS.

ME uses DOS, but I warn you, ME screws up and corrupts system files like there is no tomorrow. Of course, ME startup times are the fastest in the windows family.

	17-12-2002 01:32									#32
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ME really screwed up my dad's Sony Laptop. It was so corrupted, after starting up ME, blue screens would come up. He installed 2k Pro on it, and all the problems disappeared completely.

	17-12-2002 01:46									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Well once I install SuSe Linux, I highly doubt XP would even be close to it. I can't wait... I am gonna install it today... Personally, I like 2000 Pro more than XP.

Who wants to start a pool for how long it takes Fez to quietly slip back to the land of Windows since he can't figure out how to do anything?

	17-12-2002 02:25									#34
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This is a greeeeat poll…
Mac OS X

	17-12-2002 02:26									#35
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XP Pro as the OS that works very well and I love it. Linux for much of the programming stuff and other work I do - just an excellent OS, even though it lacks Dreamweaver.

	17-12-2002 02:33									#36
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 This is a greeeeat poll… Mac OS X

Infidel!

I use Windows 98SE. 95 doesn't work. 3.1 is too incompatible. ME is too unstable. 2K is too expensive. XP is too incompatible and unstable.

	17-12-2002 02:34									#37
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quote: XP is too incompatible and unstable.

Heh.
Riiiiiiiiiiight.

You use Win98SE and you won't use WinXP because it's "unstable" ...

It no longer surprises me the USSR fell as fast as it did.

	17-12-2002 02:40									#38
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quote: This is a greeeeat poll… Mac OS X

Me too.

Great poll, Red_Jon.

	17-12-2002 02:53									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Infidel! I use Windows 98SE. 95 doesn't work. 3.1 is too incompatible. ME is too unstable. 2K is too expensive. XP is too incompatible and unstable.

Infidel!

	17-12-2002 02:58									#40
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out of 48 votes, only 5 picked Other, seems about right to me

	17-12-2002 03:01									#41
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Windows XP is, in my opinion, the best Windows ever. I don't remember any time where it fail to me.

Also, I use Red Hat 7.2 for my university project

	17-12-2002 03:14									#42
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Blah, Win98SE 4eva!! I have WinXP on my laptop and i don't like it at all!!

In explorer i want to set my files in a list, but when i go to another folder, it's set to those horrible huge pictograms again (i hate that!!)


I am a WinXP noob though... but i do like the simpler win98SE layout more than the XP... I don't care about blue screens, just click enter, ctrl+alt+del the foul prog and go on with yer "comping"

	17-12-2002 03:15									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Heh. Riiiiiiiiiiight. You use Win98SE and you won't use WinXP because it's "unstable" ...

I haven't had that many problems with 98. With XP, the system kept crashing, startups were quick but getting to my desktop took literally 5+ minutes (I have NEVER had that happen with ANY OS. Well, maybe a mac.....)

NONE of my games would work. They either screwed up the monitor or simply refused to run (Yes I know of compatibility mode. That did not help).

Any of my other programs began to fall apart. IE couldn't function in XP, and neither could Netscape. Windows "Help" wouldn't work because for some reason Microsoft HTML decided to commit suicide, and that prevented me from "restoring" my system to when only my games were falling apart. MSN, Yahoo, Winamp, and Control Panel (!) ceased to function. The only game I could get to run on the computer was AoE:AoK.

This all happend within a space of 3 days. Within the first few days (1-2) I did a virus scan, and it came up with "clean". So pardon me if I'm slightly biased against XP. Let's just say I've had "bad experiences".

And don't even get me started on crappy Microsoft support......

quote: It no longer surprises me the USSR fell as fast as it did.

I bet they were all using a beta versino of XP.

	17-12-2002 03:16									#44
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Linux, is indeed inconprehensible... it's annoying to not know the commands... I didn't want to read another 1000 pages on Linux so i just deleted it

	17-12-2002 03:16									#45
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Yep, WinXP is as much a step forward as was 95 compared to 3.1.

	17-12-2002 03:16									#46
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Tass, I have no idea what would cause your problems but something was obviously very very wrong.

Let me guess: You have a really crappy graphics card?

That would explain why most games wouldn't work and why it was unstable as all hell, it probably had REALLY crappy NT drivers...

As for this part:

quote: Any of my other programs began to fall apart. IE couldn't function in XP, and neither could Netscape. Windows "Help" wouldn't work because for some reason Microsoft HTML decided to commit suicide, and that prevented me from "restoring" my system to when only my games were falling apart. MSN, Yahoo, Winamp, and Control Panel (!) ceased to function. The only game I could get to run on the computer was AoE:AoK.

I've never, ever, heard of anything of that sort before. As I said before, something was very very wrong and if you actually asked people here we probably could have troubleshooted it for you.

C'est la vie, I hope you're happy with Win98SE since everyone else I know would sure as hell would take XP over 98SE anyday.

	17-12-2002 03:18									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Yep, WinXP is as much a step forward as was 95 compared to 3.1.

So you're saying it's a giant leap backwards?

	17-12-2002 03:19									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 Funny, because that's what the splash screen says. It's one of those Win3.1 type WinNTs.

Yeah, that's Windows NT 3.5 or 3.51...

	17-12-2002 03:20									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Tass, I have no idea what would cause your problems but something was obviously very very wrong. Let me guess: You have a really crappy graphics card?

Yes I do. But 98 is working out FINE, I'm not switching until I absolutely have to.

	17-12-2002 03:21									#50
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quote: As for this part:

I missed your edit

quote: I've never, ever, heard of anything of that sort before. As I said before, something was very very wrong and if you actually asked people here we probably could have troubleshooted it for you.

I believe this was before i Knew of Apolyton.

quote: C'est la vie, I hope you're happy with Win98SE since everyone else I know would sure as hell would take XP over 98SE anyday.

Yes, well, I am. Again, I'm not abandoning 98 until I absolutely have to.

	17-12-2002 03:22									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Yes I do. But 98 is working out FINE, I'm not switching until I absolutely have to.

Bingo.
Your problem isn't with Windows XP, but with your graphics card vendor for making bad drivers.

What graphics card do you have?

	17-12-2002 03:25									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Bingo. Your problem isn't with Windows XP, but with your graphics card vendor for making bad drivers. What graphics card do you have?

Intel 82810E Graphics "Controller".

Make of that what you will.

	17-12-2002 03:26									#53
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quote: Intel 82810E Graphics "Controller".

Oh the problems I have had with that Controller...

	17-12-2002 03:28									#54
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Integrated graphics. Can't say that I'm surprised.

	17-12-2002 03:30									#55
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I have my network card integrated and couldn't get LAN to work till I turned LAN chip to ON in BIOS. Took me two hours nearly .

	17-12-2002 03:37									#56
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Asher: I've gotten that response more than once....Surprinsgly however I've had very few problems with it.

	17-12-2002 03:38									#57
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Yes, i once had integrated graphics, audio and everything too... never again !!!

	17-12-2002 03:38									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Asher: I've gotten that response more than once....Surprinsgly however I've had very few problems with it.

You mean except for your rant about how Windows XP doesn't work with it?

	17-12-2002 03:38									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You mean except for your rant about how Windows XP doesn't work with it?

Yes, except for that.

	17-12-2002 03:39									#60
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Seems like a major thing for me.