06-01-2003 06:13									#31
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argg....you didnt send again......oh well send tomorrow then...

	06-01-2003 06:15									#32
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Still up....just. I sent a third time.....no matter, I will send again.

	06-01-2003 06:23									#33
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ok i am not sure what i have to do to read your attachments, they come in grey and i can't access them/?

	06-01-2003 06:24									#34
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ok, ONE more time, i comepletely disabled the firewall and the virus scanner

	06-01-2003 21:39									#35
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Excellent work from both samson and SG!!! It is priceless for me as I never understood the hut/special patterns anyway. Maybe now I have a chance at keeping pace in MP games.

Good job and kudos.

	07-01-2003 03:37									#36
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the pattern was always easy enough, make a blank map and you can see foryourself..... this just eliminates the guesswork.......haha

	07-01-2003 03:41									#37
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I sent the file again this morning......any luck yet?

	07-01-2003 07:50									#38
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no b/c i had the stupid email blocker on...its off now...(for sure) and off until the file comes, i was at work when i posted that message

	08-01-2003 02:49									#39
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The hutfinder has greatly benefitted early city placement strats. Granted, we always knew the general special patterns, but sometimes you weren't sure if it was a three or four special pattern. Having a hut in your opening screen is an even bigger advantage than it was.

	08-01-2003 04:18									#40
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever no b/c i had the stupid email blocker on...its off now...(for sure) and off until the file comes, i was at work when i posted that message

Ok I sent it again this morning.......last chance.

	09-01-2003 04:11									#41
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ok i got it, but when i try to run it, it sayss something about a dialer program>? and when i save it to a folder, i can't access it....creeping me out, it worked fine before

	09-01-2003 04:17									#42
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You are trying to 'run' the dll? I said copy it to your windows system folder.

You have tried just reinstalling the Git's program I take it?

	10-01-2003 02:15									#43
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i click on the attachment and save it to my windows system folder and then just leave it be ?

i will try this, and yes, i have installed and removed the program a ton of times and no change, but i put the .dll in my unzipped folder first...so maybe in the windows folder will give me a different result....

	10-01-2003 02:54									#44
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever i click on the attachment and save it to my windows system folder and then just leave it be ?

Yup..........should work.

	11-01-2003 09:08									#45
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For what it's worth, I get a similar message as War4ever: "Failed to load CommonDialog from Cmdlg32.ocx..." It appears this app was built expecting a more recent version of the ActiveX control than I have on my trusty ol' Win98 machine. Not sure whether I can get a version that will run it. This looks like such a great tool.

	11-01-2003 13:39									#46
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exactly the same for me......not sure why either....my win 98 was working fine with it, then it just stopped....sigh...oh well

	11-01-2003 16:13									#47
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Hang on War I thought you said yours was a dll error? As for this other error I have no idea......I'd ask the gits.

	11-01-2003 23:42									#48
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yes origionally it was, then the error changed to the one that Timtheenchanter psted...i posted this in this thread before

	12-01-2003 03:51									#49
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well i fixed my issues, i use a program called extreme hu for my satelite needs when i installed this program again, and the support files, it obviously installed the files i was missing for scouse gits program to work.

timtheenchanter if you need these files i keep them in zip form....send me an icq or contact me at
dieselonly@telus.net

	15-01-2003 05:55									#50
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SG,
I have tried the program. Very well...but..I am lazy...

So this is my order:
1. To make the map a little bit larger
2. To make it scrollable
3. To allow to write words on squares (for example London, cape, banana, fortress etc.)
4. (optional) Sometimes I play without huts or a hut is not seen in the beginning. Would it be possible to start from specials too?

	15-01-2003 05:57									#51
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What is a difference between a trade distance and a movement distance? And how to get the Options menu to work? I don't see any changes when clicking on show movement distance.

	15-01-2003 14:25									#52
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Hi ST

I can only concurr that your suggestions are sound - but well beyond the time constraints I have for the development of this little toy.

Distance - the option choice only comes into operation once the lists are refreshed - the difference between the two is seen when there is some diagonal (due N/S or E/W) element to the distance - one square for movement 1.5 for trade...

SG[1]

	16-01-2003 01:44									#53
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Thank you SG, I understand: 'trade distance' is the distance used in Civ2 formulas, 'movement distance' is number of steps needed for a warrior.

	16-01-2003 02:07									#54
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i find that the optimum path isn't always correct? ie when you plan it out, it doesn't always work

	16-01-2003 15:56									#55
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Yes - the trouble seems to lie in not quite SWerly links - in my current game I have two cities placed:

code:

....rC
...rr.
..rr..
.rr...
Br...

	16-01-2003 17:44									#56
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From the MP forum:

quote: Just a thought guys - since I need to do a little more work on the Hut Finder -- thanks to DaveV's comments -- would it be helpful if I included a (?deity only?) oedo table in the software? SG[1] please post any replies on the HutFinder thread - I don't come here that often...

Yes it would be helpful! And even more if you included ALL the OEDO tables and not only deity...

	16-01-2003 17:57									#57
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OK - I'll do that - does anyone offhand happen to know the turn breakdown for non-deity levels - I confess that I would have to determine them empirically otherwise ...

SG[1]

	16-01-2003 18:11									#58
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I'm still using the the one version back because I like to have the option to reenter the original coordinates. (sometimes I type them in wrong, or we end up restarting a game) And the removal of the minimize in the new one is annoying (very minimal)
Adding OEDO years would be nice, but that won't be enough to make me go to the new version. After all the years, I have the deity memorized all the way to A.D., but if we start continueing more games, it would be nice.

RAH

	16-01-2003 18:28									#59
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Ah - I feared my menu was not as clear as i had originally hoped -- if you select Window|Always on top, a new menu item "Shrink me" appears that does what it says on the label and reduces the footprint to a seriously tiny size...
The reason you can't re-enter the original co-ords is because during one of our drunken sessions I managed to lose the seed - by putting new search co-ords into the wrong box not once, not twice, but three bloody times! - at this point the changes (to save the drunken Gits from themselves) became mandatory. The minimize button was a victim of my removing the system exit button - cos I was too lazy to hack the pre-exit method to ensure that a save option was offered before closure.

Yes I too have the BC oedos off pat, but I still have to look up teh AD ones...

SG[1]

	16-01-2003 18:33									#60
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thanks for the input guys - keep it coming - I shall probably be re-visiting Hutfinder in about a fortnight...

SG[1]