05-01-2003 20:46									#61
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Dear King Carlos,

We're very pleased with your answer. If Austria also agree with the teatry, we will consider that the teatry has begone approved by all nations

Signed,
King Francois of France

	05-01-2003 22:33									#62
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quote: Originally posted by yaroslav Spain:I wont attack any Spanish city, and I'll leave Pamplona unconquered. Spain can conquest any rebel city .

Yes, I agree

quote: Italy: We can firm this deal about Italy: Rome and Florence for Spain, Venice and Ancona for Austria, Milan and Genoa for France.

Ok, for me too

quote: Germany: Austria and France have right to expand on Germany, but Spain swear not to conquest any German city.

Ok, let's work out a plan for participation.

quote: Swiss: Swiss will be part of France Territory, among those neutral cities on my country.

Ok.

quote: Portugal: Spain can conquest Portugal.

No, I disagree Just kidding

quote: Catholic Alliance: Our three nations will sign a alliance: who attacks any Catholic nation, attacks all Catholic nations.

Yes I will sign this Alliance with pleasure.

	05-01-2003 22:37									#63
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Anyway Austria should get the largest part of Germany.

	06-01-2003 03:42									#64
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Denmark will also have its share of Germany. Schleswig and Holstein should at least be Danish. But as time goes by we want more of Northern Germany.

	06-01-2003 03:50									#65
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If Denmark gets a part then Spain wants a part too!

	06-01-2003 03:50									#66
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The Habsburg-family and the country of Austria has the oldest rights and privileges in Germany but in order for peace we allowed France, as a gesture of good will, a small part.

We will NOT allow any movement of any other country into Habsburg protectorates. Any attack on German cities will be seen as a declaration of war against Austria and therefore our alliance with Spain and France will be put into effect.

You don't want to mess with half of Europe, would you?

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	06-01-2003 04:14									#67
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No I wouldn't, but you must understand that we want to liberate our christian brothers in Schleswig-Holstein. There are majority of Danish descendents living there.

	06-01-2003 04:17									#68
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Maybe if Denmark converted to catholisism?

	06-01-2003 04:19									#69
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The Swedish nation's claims against all of Russia should'nt be contested. Russia is apart of the Swedish Nation. This goes back many thousands of years.

Sweden just wants to make it clear we have a non-aggression pact with the Danes and not an alliance ( unless you want to arrange something?).

Well thats it folks.
Cheers.
Civfan.

	06-01-2003 04:26									#70
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That is what spain will say if you enter Germany.. just kidding or i dont know we shall see...

	06-01-2003 04:34									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra No I wouldn't, but you must understand that we want to liberate our christian brothers in Schleswig-Holstein. There are majority of Danish descendents living there.

All of the German Empire is hereby declared a protectorate of Austria. Once again:
NO other country is allowed to enter Germany except than Austrian or France.

I officially ask Spain to be the mediator in the case of drawing a border of Austrian and French possessions. I trust in the wisdom of the Spanish monarch.

	06-01-2003 04:40									#72
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All of Northern Germany is hereby declared a protectorate of Denmark. Schleswig-Holstein will be annexed by Denmark to ease the suffering of the danish population living in that area.

	06-01-2003 04:48									#73
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This is how it should look like:

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	06-01-2003 04:54									#74
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Other nations interfeering in these cities will have to taste the Danish steel! Not that we want anything but peace with everyone. We are a peace loving nation

	06-01-2003 05:31									#75
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Well so be it:

Should the Danes ILLEGALLY enter German territory they can be sure that Imperial armies will be put in march to defend their territory and throw the invaders back to their homeland.

	06-01-2003 05:35									#76
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Illegally!? Who are you to say? I spoke with the leader of the Germans, and he said it was ok

	06-01-2003 05:49									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra Illegally!? Who are you to say? I spoke with the leader of the Germans, and he said it was ok

Well 1)the Habsburgs are the protectors of the German provinces and therefore they will make sure that no harm will be done to them by foreign powers
and
2) I spoke with the German landlords too and they not only asked me but really plead me to help defend their territory against the evil Danish invaders

	06-01-2003 06:10									#78
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You have probably been misled . The ones I spoke with plead me to liberate them. And since Denmark are the protector of Northern Germany this is ok. And I doubt any other nations will interfeer in this childish "crisis" which is so far away from them and does not consern them at all.

	06-01-2003 06:14									#79
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...Maybe I should include Hannover as well with a green circle just to annoy you...

	06-01-2003 06:38									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra And I doubt any other nations will interfeer in this childish "crisis" which is so far away from them and does not consern them at all.

Well perhaps you may think it's childish but for me it's a matter of survival:
If I would give way than the next time Sweden will come and want some cities in Germany and then even the Ottomans (perhaps they might want Berlin )

The fact is that you all have territories which belong to you alone and you don't need to fight for but that's not for me: I've to divide Italy and the Balkan. Now it's just fair that Germany is my territory alone. If everybody wants a share in Germany I will get perhaps 3 cities out of it and than? You will all have more than 30 cities and could easily overrun Austria and I will not let this happen. So just for my right to survive I will declare war if you land in North Germany.

	06-01-2003 08:16									#81
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I wish the Danes and Austrians would work something out. And remember to make sure you dont miss the big picture. Austria has plenty of space to go east!

Please work out a comprimise!

	06-01-2003 14:09									#82
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Actually galvatron if he takes a german city you'll be forced to declare war lest you lose your title as holy roman emperor (when killing the last defender the danes will get the "do you want to declare war on austria" popup message).
Now I guess you two could simply make peace after that (and its a totaly viable option, historically and gameplay wise) but I thought I'd mention it

	07-01-2003 19:02									#83
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Whos turn is it?

	08-01-2003 00:49									#84
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As the RIGHTFUL Holy Roman Emperor of the German Nation Karl begins with the partition plan:

I officially hand over the cities of Hamburg, Lubeck, Bemen Luneburg and Wismar to the French sphere of influence. This is the territory I promised you in order to make peace. Feel free to capture these cities and integrate them into the French Empire whenever you like.

Signed
Emperor Karl

	08-01-2003 01:37									#85
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What s nerver!? Hamburg and Lubuck are mine, and so are the cities of Bremen, Luneburg and Wismar. Remember that I am the protector of those citites, I will not tolerate attacks aimed against these citites.

	08-01-2003 01:42									#86
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Well but I promised the French these cities so you have to quarrel with them. This is no longer my concern.

	08-01-2003 02:36									#87
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Dear European Kings:

It's my turn (I'll play in some minutes). German is to be divided between French and Austria, as the King of Austria told me about. I don't want to figth against Danes, but France rigths on France will be not discuted.

And I hate to remember to Danes that, but Austria and France are allies.

King Francois of France

	08-01-2003 03:01									#88
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Here is the turn

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	08-01-2003 18:50									#89
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heres my turn

Btw for some reason i was in war with France.
I've made Peace now.

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	09-01-2003 05:44									#90
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Oh Boy its my turn!

Ill play tonight.

We really need to reach an agreement here btw the Danes and the Catholics. WAR NOW IS GOING TO BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR BOTH SIDES!

And dont forget this is a playtest! As you have comments or suggestions please post them here!