07-01-2003 02:50									#91
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by Father Beast So, are you suggesting that the patches released for civ3, that made the game so that it doesn't crash all the time, that made various features work the way they were supposed to (like air superiority),etc. etc., should be PAID FOR???

No, that is bug fixing and should be taken out of hide. Stuff like the new civs and enhancements should be paid for.

As far as the free content done here and on other sites goes it is nice that these people (myself included) donated them. However, if my boss asked me to do my Watercolor Terrain I'd have to have charged him a few thousand dollars (which he would have charged our customers twice that for if they had asked for it).

	07-01-2003 02:52									#92
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

FWIW, extremely well for any XP is about one quarter of the original sales.

	07-01-2003 04:08									#93
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Are there any figures as to how PTW has done up to now???

	09-01-2003 00:56									#94
	Tired of ads?

quote: I agree that multiplayer support shouldn't be free. But is a broken, laggy, poorly implemented multiplayer experience really woth $30?

Sorry, but i have to disagree with you, because, any PC game released in 2001 has the obligation to have MP. Come on People! This is common sense.

It is understandable When Civ2 was released in early 1996 w/o MP when more than 50% of PC gamers were single players. But in year 2002, when a game charges $30 for extra modable sigle player stuff, and a crappy MP the game deserves to be critized.

	09-01-2003 01:38									#95
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by thinkingamer Sorry, but i have to disagree with you, because, any PC game released in 2001 has the obligation to have MP. Come on People! This is common sense.

No, it is not. There is no rule that PC games need to have MP. If you expect it, or would like it, or assume that the company should include it, that is your problem. Nobody ever had any obligation to give you anything. You got what you paid for; the Civ3 box didn't say "includes MP" on it.

	09-01-2003 02:47									#96
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Will Candle'bre ship with multiplayer?

	09-01-2003 02:50									#97
	Suffering from ads?

I hear that Unreal 2 which should ship shortly will have no MP at all and no plans for it (as will GalCiv). This is unacceptable. Any PC game released in 2003 has the obligation to have MP. Come on People! This is common sense.

	09-01-2003 02:51									#98
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Yes! The public beta does not, and will not have MP, but as I understand it, the "hooks" are already in place to include it.

-=Vel=-

	09-01-2003 03:12									#99
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Come to think of the big hit game of the past few years just got an MP expansion. The Sims.