03-01-2003 08:40									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat I never find the little errors. I tend to point out the big big plot-holes.

I do both.

That's why bad movies are so entertaining

	03-01-2003 17:23									#32
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I have only been able to catch a few:

The Running Man: In the Helicopter Scene, where you're supposed to follow a camera in the helicopter, but at one time the heli-cam is hidden in Arnolds head...

Police Academy ## (Can't remember which one): When Jones jumps over a fence, to save a shop-keeper, he looses his hat two times turing the jump (1: In the air 2: When he lands)

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand I was wondering who's post I saw that referenced this site. MtG. all righty then.

That would be my post

	03-01-2003 18:19									#33
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I come from a production background, so tend to notice them more than many. My wife is now hooked on finding them, too.

Early in TFOTR, when the hobbits are hiding in tree roots to avoid the Nazgul, you'll see the horse literally come through the tree trunk, instead of entering from off-frame.

Doing this messes with your ability to suspend disbelief, so I know I've seen a well-produced flick when I can achieve that state. (Much easier to do in a theater. At home, especially on DVD, I tend to pick things apart.)

	03-01-2003 23:57									#34
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Just watched Bullitt the other night. During the big car chase scene, the same green Volkswagen bug keeps appearing. They used multiple cameras on some of the more daring stunts and showed the cars ripping around turns from different angles. The problem was they broke the sequence up so you see them and the bug, then they drive a little, and then they are back to the same corner with the green bug. Still one helluva chase scene although it wasn't clear why the villains in the Charger went off the road.

I never looked closely, but I heard there were vapor trails from a jet during the desert battle scene in Patton.
And the sight of German insignias on Patton tanks (M60's?) just didn't cut it. I like war movies where they use somewhat authentic vehicles, like in Saving Private Ryan and Kelly's Heroes.

	04-01-2003 00:06									#35
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I thought "The battle of the buldge" was rather good in that aspect.

	04-01-2003 00:10									#36
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The only one I can think of offhand was in Titanic (although there were many). One crucial scene had the two main characters trapped behind a locked metal gate separating third class space from the rest of the ship. No such gates existed on the Titanic, as class space was separated by, at most, simple doors. That was the one most crucial to the plot, I think.

	04-01-2003 00:19									#37
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Oh, and one more I remember:

In The Time Machine, you can see when Alexander travels through time the different times that pass-by (Like he notices the board saying "The future is NOW", and stops the time travelling because of that). But for some strange reason, nobody places anything at his time machine. It's like all other people can actually see his time machine, while he travels through time (and during the ice age, the time machine is under snow).

Sure, it could be, that his time machine doesn't shift time as in most other time travel movies, but the strange thing is, the last time he travels through time, he goes to the future, and goes back to the time short after he leaves. BUT if the above statement was true (= the time machine only slows down the time in the machine, while other people actually can see the machine), then he'd travel into his own time machine, the time machine from "the past" (well...ehmmm...5 minutes earlier, but still it's the past time machine)


Hmmm... I'd be suprised if people actually understands what I'm talking about here... I guess it sounds pretty weird... but I'm not good at explaining

	04-01-2003 00:47									#38
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There were some logistical problems in the Back to The Future movies. The introduce the idea of paradoxes, but aren't consistent with it.

Example1: Old Biff goes back to the past to give young Biff the sports almanac. But by doing that, he changes the future so that when he's old, he can't go back... and on top of that, Doc could never invent the time machine because he gets committed...

I have a problem with those movies, although quite entertaining...

	04-01-2003 01:13									#39
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my friends really good at that, even the first time watching it.
i however, don't care enough

	04-01-2003 01:22									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove I think Pearl Harbor takes the record for most mistakes in a movie.

I noticed two horrible mistakes when I saw Pearl Harbor:

1) I had actually paid to go see it.

2) My seat was actually facing the screen.

	04-01-2003 13:13									#41
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Sava. rewatch back to the future. Using their logic, by going back into the past they created two timelines. The first timeline actually did exist. You can't change the fact that old biff went back in time. this actually happened in the movie. But what happened after that is a seperate time line was created by giving him the book.

remember the scene were he draws the diverging timelines on the blackboard?

	04-01-2003 13:28									#42
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I don't see mistakes too often, but since seeing Fight Club, I see cigarette burns all the time in theaters now.

	04-01-2003 16:46									#43
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I just saw Brewster's Millions yesterday, and noticed three mistakes:

1: When Brewster talks for the first time with Drakes fionce (sp?) and offers him $100,000 he also gives him a glass of wine/champagne (or something like that). He drinks quickly the first glass, but when Brewster puts the glasses down on the table (infront of the camera) just after the glass was finished, both glasses were filled

2: The baseball game at the end of the movie was supposed to be on Yankees stadium, right? But even though those yankees are the best players in N.Y. they still have a railroad track running through the stadium. (Well... I haven't been in America, but I'd say it's kinda strange to have a railroad track going through are well-used baseball stadium)

3: For some reason I can't remember that one now...

	04-01-2003 21:59									#44
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And about Back to the Future:

How come the 'time' knows when (or if) Marty goes back to 1985, after he goes into the future? He goes into 2015 where his future himself is living, but how come that 'time' knows that Marty actually goes back in time again? What if Marty choses to stay in 2015, or he gets killed? If that happens, then he wouldn't be able to go back in time again, and live his life as he would normally, and thereby the future Marty went to, wouldn't be the actual future, since in his real future he's dead (or maybe he's starting his future in 2015, which means he's not 50 in 2015, but 20 (since he doesn't go back to his time)

So the question is: How come that 'time' knows that he will go back (and when he goes back) ? If 'time' really know that he would go back in time, then 'time' would also know that the old Biff also goes back in time, and thereby changes the future, so the future Marty goes to is not the future he thinks he goes to...


I guess that sounds pretty confusing...

	05-01-2003 00:00									#45
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quote: I don't see mistakes too often, but since seeing Fight Club, I see cigarette burns all the time in theaters now.

For more time travel problems:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/6040/

I rarely notice mistakes.

	05-01-2003 00:18									#46
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The most recentovie mistake I caught was in "Ghost Ship". Gold bars are very heavy, something the cast obviously wasn't told as they casually passed & tossed them around.

	05-01-2003 05:17									#47
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I remember getting very upset at "Top Gun" for the scene near the end in which the 6 MiGs are chasing the one F-14. An F-14 can target 6 enemy planes at once.

BTW: Anyone else notice that the pilots were the one firing the F-14's weapons, not the weapons officers?

	05-01-2003 05:34									#48
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That one must have escaped Zkribbler That and I have never been able to endure Top Gun to the bitter end

	05-01-2003 06:01									#49
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quote: Gold bars are very heavy, something the cast obviously wasn't told as they casually passed & tossed them around.

Ditto Die Hard 3.

I often notice mistakes, though usually only in bad movies. It makes it more fun to rip the movie apart afterward

Nitpicking is just a good way to pass the time when watching bad films. I'll only spot mistakes in good films the 2nd or 3rd time, otherwise I get too caught up in the action.

One aside is that I cannot help but spot all the nonsense said about computers in films, the dreadful GUI's they make up, the bullshit they speak.... it pains me.

	05-01-2003 12:32									#50
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In Brewster's Millions wasn't he playing the Yankees in their minor league field? I'm sure there were no train tracks in Yankee Stadium. I may have to rewatch.

	05-01-2003 13:11									#51
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I normally notice stuff such as historical inaccuracies in WW2 movies. When I'm with a particular friend, it gets so bad that no one will watch WW2 movies with us anymore.

	05-01-2003 16:46									#52
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quote: Originally posted by ADG And about Back to the Future: How come the 'time' knows when (or if) Marty goes back to 1985, after he goes into the future? He goes into 2015 where his future himself is living, but how come that 'time' knows that Marty actually goes back in time again? What if Marty choses to stay in 2015, or he gets killed? If that happens, then he wouldn't be able to go back in time again, and live his life as he would normally, and thereby the future Marty went to, wouldn't be the actual future, since in his real future he's dead (or maybe he's starting his future in 2015, which means he's not 50 in 2015, but 20 (since he doesn't go back to his time) So the question is: How come that 'time' knows that he will go back (and when he goes back) ? If 'time' really know that he would go back in time, then 'time' would also know that the old Biff also goes back in time, and thereby changes the future, so the future Marty goes to is not the future he thinks he goes to... I guess that sounds pretty confusing...

With any time travel film its not a movie mistake, but a gaping huge plot hole - just say "grandfather paradox" and be done with it in most cases (parallel dimension time travel is a get out, but then hollywood should really not be digging their plotholes any deeper). I suspend belief in such films else there is no point watching them.

	05-01-2003 17:05									#53
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Well... I didn't actually notice the tracks, but during the last baseball-game, a train comes through the field...

Might have been on their minor league field, though I understod is as if it was the Yankees stadium...

	06-01-2003 12:42									#54
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It's been too long since I seen it. They were supposed to play at Yankee stadium, but I can't remember if they actually went through with it.