08-01-2003 12:38									#31
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quote: Originally posted by nz_upy ^ l Is this legal?

Well it's not ILLEGAL...per say. Besides, it would take a couple Senate Bills to hammer out something like that..

Talking about it isn't illegal, but that conversation would have to take place in another thread...

Meshelic

	08-01-2003 21:57									#32
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I am a current judge, and would have to resign....

I would be willing to do so and be prez if, and only if, nobody else wants to do it.

If I am it, there will be NO turnchats.

If I am it, any missing minister orders I will make judgements, and issue either my own or halt the game.

I will, in essance, be a petty dictator, doing what I want, how I want, when I want, and so forth. That doesn't mean I will intentionally brake any laws or violate the reasoning behind having the demo-game. It just means that I will run it like a person who isn't going to put up with a lot of crap.

If I have a VP who is willing, they will be more than welcome to play the game as a chat every now and then.

Because of how I know I will run this, I strongly advise someone else to run. I would much rather stay a justice for this month.

GK

	08-01-2003 22:12									#33
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing I am a current judge, and would have to resign.... I would be willing to do so and be prez if, and only if, nobody else wants to do it. If I am it, there will be NO turnchats. If I am it, any missing minister orders I will make judgements, and issue either my own or halt the game. I will, in essance, be a petty dictator, doing what I want, how I want, when I want, and so forth. That doesn't mean I will intentionally brake any laws or violate the reasoning behind having the demo-game. It just means that I will run it like a person who isn't going to put up with a lot of crap. If I have a VP who is willing, they will be more than welcome to play the game as a chat every now and then. Because of how I know I will run this, I strongly advise someone else to run. I would much rather stay a justice for this month. GK

hi ,

, need a VP , .....

have a nice day

	08-01-2003 22:15									#34
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing I will, in essence, be a petty dictator, doing what I want, how I want, when I want, and so forth. GK

So, what? That's how we have ALWAYS envisioned you.

	08-01-2003 22:44									#35
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Thanks GF.....

	08-01-2003 22:56									#36
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GodKing, I'm sure you could make a great president, only that I would really miss turnchats during wartime. I've said it before and I'll say it again - turnchats allow for real-time brainstorming and are necessary for making war properly.
Having said that, I hope that someone else (Roadcage? E_T? Ghengis Farb?) volunteers and you won't have to run. It's nothing personal, and I'm sure you'd make an EXCELLENT president, really I am, but that black spot about turnchats just won't let my conscience vote for you.

	08-01-2003 23:05									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber GodKing, I'm sure you could make a great president, only that I would really miss turnchats during wartime. I've said it before and I'll say it again - turnchats allow for real-time brainstorming and are necessary for making war properly. Having said that, I hope that someone else (Roadcage? E_T? Ghengis Farb?) volunteers and you won't have to run. It's nothing personal, and I'm sure you'd make an EXCELLENT president, really I am, but that black spot about turnchats just won't let my conscience vote for you.

hi ,

he could always start to see the benefits in a couple day's , .....

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	08-01-2003 23:40									#38
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If no one else wants to be prez, I would consider it, but it would be much the same araingement GK mentioned, except we would have about 1 turnchat a week on the weekends. but during the week we would have a turnthread. Gernerally it would be in the form of a continually moving turn. I'd play when I could a turn post the results and then would do the next turn after input(particularly for the SMC, since the other orders could be done ahead of time).
Aggie

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	09-01-2003 00:17									#39
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As many of you have suspected, in RL...

I roadcage (retired) am a big picture think tank type of guy who absolutely, positively would be terrible in a line position. I believe that I best serve the DG community by doing what I have done in the past. While current and past administrations have not heeded my ramblings, I am certain that I have raised the bar on gameplay analysis.

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	09-01-2003 00:32									#40
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I can definately see the desire for chats, however, there are few and far between times when I can divote over 9 hours of time to play 3-5 turns, which is what if takes for a chat.

Also, I am unable to use mIRC and log on to poly at home. There is some sort of compatibility issue that nobody has been able to figure out. And if I use java chat here at poly, it conflicts with civ so that I can only use one at a time. Therefor in order for me to do a chat, I would have to log on. Say Hi. Log off. Start civ. Do a couple of moves. End Civ. Log on. Report. Log off. Start civ. Couple more moves. End Civ. Log on. Report. etc. etc. etc. Now 6 hours later we might be ready to end the first turn. For me it is most definately NOT worth the headach. And I doubt anybody else would want to go through that either. Therefor, I cannot reasonably do a chat.

What I would realy like to see is some of the new people step forward. Lets get involved people. This is a great way. When I started here, I ran and even skywalker got more votes than I did. No offence to skywalker. Go ahead and run for something. It is fun to be involved.

	09-01-2003 00:41									#41
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	09-01-2003 00:41									#42
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The continually moving turn is similar to an idea I've been envisioning for some time. IMHO it's certainly much better than the conventional turnthread.

	09-01-2003 00:48									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Aggie If no one else wants to be prez, I would consider it, but it would be much the same araingement GK mentioned, except we would have about 1 turnchat a week on the weekends. but during the week we would have a turnthread. Gernerally it would be in the form of a continually moving turn. I'd play when I could a turn post the results and then would do the next turn after input(particularly for the SMC, since the other orders could be done ahead of time). Aggie

This could work, you could be a Religious Warpriest leading our nation in the purge of the unfruitful (those who know not the Banana) from our continent.

I could even see myself being some sort of raving lunatic fanatically carrying your warcry....


Alright, who's it going to be?

	09-01-2003 00:55									#44
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I appreciate GodKing's willingness to step forward, and respect his decision to not go forward with turnchats himself, but I'll say this much. For me hoping to be the next SMC who will come in during a world war; obviously very interesting times, I would find it hugely difficult if turnchats weren't used during my term.

I hate to press an ultimatum, because I would really like to see GodKing as Prez, and respect his willingness, but if turnchats aren't used anymore than I will resign my nomination for SMC.

I've gotten used to chats as the way to do things, and I'm afraid that any other way would cause problems for me, personally.

Just about anyone who steps forward who can do turnchats (maybe even shortened ones that don't take an entire day) I will vote for, if that is the major difference between the nominees.

Sorry GodKing, just my own personal style of things...

	09-01-2003 01:07									#45
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As I stated, I would rather not be prez at this time. I can completely understand the desire for chats. I am just unable to do so. Therefore, I would prefer it if someone else was able to do this, such as aggie who appears to be in almost the same position I am in, and DO the chats. I enjoy sitting in on them from time to time. Simply consider me a course of desperation.

GK

	09-01-2003 01:15									#46
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing I am a current judge, and would have to resign.... I would be willing to do so and be prez if, and only if, nobody else wants to do it. If I am it, there will be NO turnchats. If I am it, any missing minister orders I will make judgements, and issue either my own or halt the game. I will, in essance, be a petty dictator, doing what I want, how I want, when I want, and so forth. That doesn't mean I will intentionally brake any laws or violate the reasoning behind having the demo-game. It just means that I will run it like a person who isn't going to put up with a lot of crap. If I have a VP who is willing, they will be more than welcome to play the game as a chat every now and then. Because of how I know I will run this, I strongly advise someone else to run. I would much rather stay a justice for this month. GK

I would be happy to be your VP in such an instance, perhaps even hold a chat once or twice, but not often...

	09-01-2003 01:34									#47
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing As I stated, I would rather not be prez at this time. I can completely understand the desire for chats. I am just unable to do so. Therefore, I would prefer it if someone else was able to do this, such as aggie who appears to be in almost the same position I am in, and DO the chats. I enjoy sitting in on them from time to time. Simply consider me a course of desperation. GK

Again, GodKing, thanks for being so willing. I guess we really can't all be too picky right now can we?

Aggie, President? (Guess that means you can't be my deputy...)

	09-01-2003 02:10									#48
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I'm pretty sure that Roadcage would volunteer to be your deputy. He has proven himself to be a first-class strategist countless times. In fact, I think he should run for SMC.

	09-01-2003 02:25									#49
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(coming out of the shadows...)

I am willing to be President again if no-one else will do it and put the proper time into it run turnchats (which I agree with Shiber as being essential).

My problem is that I'm not too thrilled with it as long as we're at war. Being President means that you have to be there for the ENTIRE turnchat and turnchats during wars are AGGRAVATINGLY LONG. Taking 6 hours to do 2 turns hasn't been my cup of tea. I far preferred running turnchats as the pseudo "Acting President" in MrWIA's absense when we did 5 turns in only 2-3 hours.

I don't particularly like losing 6 hours each saturday and another insane number of hours sometime else in the week just to do 2 measly turns.

As much as it's fun firing artillery at Otto, losing that much time I could be doing other things has become a drag.

I will run for president if someone else doesn't both want it and have the time for it. That said, as with this past term when I wanted to be FAM, I wouldn't be running for President because I'm extremely enthusiastic about the job description.

I'll probably be looking for a Vice President this next term that is fully capable of doing all the job description of President. Assuming none of you turkeys turn me down this time, the VP could be a lot more important this next term if I run for President.

That will be all for now...

	09-01-2003 02:34									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Assuming none of you turkeys turn me down this time...

	09-01-2003 03:35									#51
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As normal, I won't be running for anything . Shiber'll be great as FAM (consider this my endorsement), and I have no intention of challanging him there. As for the Presidency, I find myself (yet again) in the nasty position of being a student , and (as such) unable to do much in the way of a solid schedule, considering that it takes HOURS to play the game.

Same with being Vice President. I can serve in any capacity except in playing the game, which is where help is needed most .

So... I'm sorry to say that it sounds like I'll be rather useless yet again this term .

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	09-01-2003 09:51									#52
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Any more RAs?

I'm considering running, but I want two more deputies signed up (more, if any of you who said you wanted to be an RA before can't/won't any longer).

	10-01-2003 02:16									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos (coming out of the shadows...) I am willing to be President again if no-one else will do it and put the proper time into it run turnchats (which I agree with Shiber as being essential). My problem is that I'm not too thrilled with it as long as we're at war. Being President means that you have to be there for the ENTIRE turnchat and turnchats during wars are AGGRAVATINGLY LONG. Taking 6 hours to do 2 turns hasn't been my cup of tea. I far preferred running turnchats as the pseudo "Acting President" in MrWIA's absense when we did 5 turns in only 2-3 hours. I don't particularly like losing 6 hours each saturday and another insane number of hours sometime else in the week just to do 2 measly turns. As much as it's fun firing artillery at Otto, losing that much time I could be doing other things has become a drag. I will run for president if someone else doesn't both want it and have the time for it. That said, as with this past term when I wanted to be FAM, I wouldn't be running for President because I'm extremely enthusiastic about the job description. I'll probably be looking for a Vice President this next term that is fully capable of doing all the job description of President. Assuming none of you turkeys turn me down this time, the VP could be a lot more important this next term if I run for President. That will be all for now...

hi ,

, that would be great , since we are at an important point of history , actually most of the people could stay , this would cut down on some time that is lost due to the elections and it would also mean that many great projects can be finished in a fast and correct way , ...

have a nice day

	10-01-2003 04:16									#54
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I nominate panag for President. I think he did okay as Vice and deserves a promotion.

	10-01-2003 04:19									#55
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I second that.

	10-01-2003 04:36									#56
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Arnelos, Aggie and Panag are all in the running for President, is that correct?

	10-01-2003 04:41									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Meshelic Arnelos, Aggie and Panag are all in the running for President, is that correct?

Nope, just panag. Which is only fair as Arnelos and Aggie have both held office so its panag's turn.

	10-01-2003 04:51									#58
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Shiber would throw a fit........

But I have no objections.

Panag for Prez, and GF to be his VP..... no wait....... he would be better at domestic, now, but Kloreep is going to run for that.... oh the decisions we have......

	10-01-2003 04:53									#59
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YOU might be the future DM, if you want to. The DM job will be far more gratifying next term than it has been during the previous terms, because :
- there is virtually not any more PW to do.
- most workers will be integrated, or will have a framework for their integration
- RAs are experienced and autonomous

You'll mostly have to check if RAs' decisions don't radically go against the big picture, and do some general-interest requests to your RAs (as well as occasional PW)

Overall, DM might probably be the elected job with the least work to do next term, while still being critical to Apolytonia !

Of course, you might ask "Why do you leave then, if the job is so fulfilling ?". The answer is personal : much more RL work to do now, and the fact that I'm bored during war (for some, war in Civ is fun, but for me it is utterly dull). Also, turnchats were saturnday afternoon for me, which was a time I couldn't spend with my friends (if a North American takes over me, turnchats will be at a much more convenient time of a day). So, I'm overall wanting to enjoy retirement next term.

	10-01-2003 05:08									#60
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Why not?!? It's better than the Banana....

E_T