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Which languages would you know if you could? Post why below. (Time out:0 days after 11-01-2003, 07:14)
Spanish
Portuguese
Italian
French
German
Dutch
Latin
Ancient Greek
Modern Greek
Russian
Chinese, post dialect below
Korean
Japanese
Finnish
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Hebrew
Tagalog
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Persian Farsi
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I think that in order to get around in most parts of the world well the languages needed are:
English
Spanish
Chinese
Russian
Arabic

2 done. 3 more to go.

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I had started to learn chinese once.
Then I got bored.

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Which is very beautiful and fascinating BTW.
For example the ideogram for mother is made up of the ideograms for little child and shelter IIRC

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I think that in order to get around in most parts of the world well the languages needed are:
English
Spanish
Chinese
Russian
Arabic

I truly hope that you think that they're in no-particular order.

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If you're in the US, Spanish is the way to go. I'd also recommand Chinese because it'll be a significant edge in the future (if it's about your kids, we'd better plan a generation ahead).
If your children are into foreign languages, German and French will be very interesting, because these countries have a rich literature and philosophy, and it's always better to read the original version. Also, when your kids will do sightseeing in Paris, they'll please the locals when talking with them (a French is immediately your friend if you ask for help in French )

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I concur about that last one.
Their self righteous facade melts right off once you talk to them in french and they become the sweetest puppies on earth

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You definitely want your child to feel smart when he'll be an adult- my mother forced me to attend french and german teaching lessons since I was 6 yo, and it helped (although I have another reason to hate the french people ) I'd definitely go for german, french and russian because they'll kick asses within 30 years

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Their self righteous facade melts right off once you talk to them in french and they become the sweetest puppies on earth

I suck at french, But they apperciated the effort.

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I truly hope that you think that they're in no-particular order.

I didn't understand this comment.

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I didn't understand this comment.

I hääv difikultiis in ingrish, ju nou?

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I concur about that last one.
Their self righteous facade melts right off once you talk to them in french and they become the sweetest puppies on earth


Perhaps that is why I haven't had any bother from the French then, I do try to communicate to them in French, even if my attempts are somewhat, well, crap

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Originally posted by tandeetaylor The ones I'm mostly debating are Italian, Japanese and Korean.


Italian wouldn't be of any use for him, unless you want him to be a lyrical singer (there are many many lyrics in Italian).

Plus, once he knows Spanish, with a few trips to Italy he'll know Italian too, so no need to learn it at school (when I went to Barcelona, I was spaking Italian, and the people were answering me in either Spanish or Catalan, and we could prefectly understand each other).

This is what I think

English, Spanish (primary), Arabic (since he already knows it)

Than you could go for Chinese, French and Russian

Saluti

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Dutch (since I happen to know that already, ignore otherwise)
English and Spanish for the Americas,

English, French, German (the big 3 for Europe, so to speak), Spanish (well, we already learned that to get around in the Americas, so that's easy), Russian (any Slavic language will do I guess, but Russian is the biggest, Polish would be a good alternative) and Turkish (lots of Turkish immigrants across Europe, not really a necessity but it could be quite handy for Europe, especially when Turkey joins the EU) for Europe,

Arabic for the middle east,

and Japanese and Mandarin Chinese for the far east, since they're the two biggest economies.

And that's just a start to getting around the world today...

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French. If he's ever going to deal with the EU in a significant way, it's practically essential.

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Yikes, difficult questions.

First of all my preferances
1. Japanese, because I find the culture fascinating and intend to live there for a while. I also love the word constructions. They're pictures! (Still haven't gotten over it).

2. Spanish (bearing in mind portugese), because I intend to travel south america widely at some point in my life, and its generally useful.

3. Something asian, some arabic dialect or hindi probably, firstly because I promised myself I would when I first saw Lawrence of Arabia as a kid, secondly because I know lots of asian people and live in a largely asian area and thirdly because I'm convinced of the much greater role the middle-east and pakistan/india will play in the 21st centuary.

4. Russian, another place I intend to spend some time in, and because a lot of my favourite authors are russian and I'd love to read them in their original form.

5. Hebrew, for historical reasons

Trying to decide the 'best' is very tricky though.

I'd use 2 major factors to consider:
1. Usefulness in the future (i.e. how much the people who speak that language will influence world events)

(examples Hindi, Mandarin etc.)

2. Usefulness in understanding the nature of language

i.e. languages that differ greatly from your native tounge (examples Japanese, Arabic etc.)

I don't think Spanish, French, German etc. are nearly as important as the above mentioned, as they are very simple to pick up if you speak english already, and will only be easier if you learn other, more different languages.
They will be slowly dying over this centuary anyway, as english takes over.

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Yikes, difficult questions.

First of all my preferances
1. Japanese, because I find the culture fascinating and intend to live there for a while. I also love the word constructions. They're pictures! (Still haven't gotten over it).


That would be Chinese more or less. Japanese is mostly phonetic now.

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That would be Chinese more or less. Japanese is mostly phonetic now.


Yea but Japanese Kanas are based on chinese kanjis...

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The best language to learn:

Italian

Why? Well, I know (knew, it's been some years since I last talked to her) some nice Italian girl, and would love to be able to talk to her in her language... oh, and I also like that language, and like Italy

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I also like the "playfulness" of the Italian language (the accents the sounds etc), although I admit I don't speak it/know it.

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I got this wish last year to learn chinese but I couldnt find a class in my city. Would it be possible to learn at home, using primarily books and internet?

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Lemme see:

There are some languages which may be useful:

Latin and Ancient Greece: Very important if your son wants to become a scientist or medic. Many Terms in the natural sciences and in medicine are in Latin or ancient Greek. If your son knows what those terms mean in english, it is much more easy for him, to memorize them (and memorizing such terms is very important for studying Medicine or the natural sciences).

Chinese and Japan: Emerging industrial countries, which may be getting more important in the near or far future, so it may be useful to speak them, if your son is becoming a businessman.

English of course, cos it is the lingua franca of the 21st century

French maybe, the reason will become apparent, if you hear a Frenchman trying to speak english

And German of course, cos I am from germany and I like it, if other people speak my language

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Chinese and Japan: Emerging industrial countries, which may be getting more important in the near or far future, so it may be useful to speak them, if your son is becoming a businessman.


Japan is not an emerging industrial country

Many people here are mentioning Japanese for practical purposes.

I have to state my opinion, I totaly disagree with this. Not that Japanese is bad to learn, just that I dont think you can compare its practical usefullnes with other languages, wheather Japan increases its economic influence or not.

First, as a consumer of Japanese products, you dont benefit from knowing Japanese. They use western standards in most of their products which are always well adjusted and translated since the have any decades of expirience as an exporting nation.

Secondly, Japanese companies have many patents, but I dont think Japan is so advanced in basic science that at any time a scientist may have to learn it.

Thirdly, if you travel, Japanese is pretty confined to Japan only.

Fourth, there is only 120 million of them, and as far as I can recall the number is declining. Their culture migt be getting more influential as countries who havent been exposed to it previousely (Russia for example) pick up some of their pop products, like anime or manga, but this I think doesnt qualify as a very practical thing.

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I got this wish last year to learn chinese but I couldnt find a class in my city. Would it be possible to learn at home, using primarily books and internet?


Possible, though you really need to have a lot of disipline. Pinyin is quite decent for spoken Mandarin.

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Yea but Japanese Kanas are based on chinese kanjis...


Chinese kanjis? Isn't that redundant?

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Hey, where's the Arabic option!
I voted for
German
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Hindi
Persian

-edit oops I didn't read initial post

 
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