16-01-2003 12:24									#121
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quote: it is not me that is winging I am only complaining at the fact that something has happened that you don;t like, and you are doing eveything in your power to try and get it erased. Of course nothing could happen to Centralis or his allies could it.

You ARE whinging. Still. You say you have nukes; okay, so you have them. Nobody argued. Then you seem to think you can screw up the whole system by threatening to destroy a whole country without said country doing something which is in fact relatively plausible in order to keep things running.

Oh, and I would have had no objection to you launching conventional attacks and so forth on Alecrast or me, AS LONG AS THEY STAYED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF REASON.

	16-01-2003 12:26									#122
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That was. I was being held to ransom, I am a dictator. Don't you think is Sadam Husein had nukes, and his son was being held to ransom that he would launch. I think he would.

	16-01-2003 12:29									#123
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And kill his son in the process?

	16-01-2003 12:30									#124
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quote: That was. I was being held to ransom, I am a dictator. Don't you think is Sadam Husein had nukes, and his son was being held to ransom that he would launch. I think he would.

I don't give a f*ck what Saddam would or wouldn't do. The issue ehre is the game. You fabricate 100 nukes out of nowhere, and we accept that. Then you try to use them to make yourself invincible, and we don't accept that.

We could just as easily have anounced that we had developed an impenetrable missile shield as soon as you anounced that you had nukes, but we didn't, because when everyone anounces that they are now invincible, it just turns into a shouting match.

EDIT: And you weren't being held for ransom. Members of your family were being held hostage due to your unprovoked nuclear threats.

	16-01-2003 12:32									#125
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point taken, however when someone does threaten me and my ministers I do get angry. Okay I will edit the attack to I just took the capital out. I will say that I only has 11 missiles also, and I have used, one leaving with me with an even 10. Fair enough?

	16-01-2003 12:36									#126
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Only if you accept that your nation is probably going to be vaporized for having used nukes. I'd advise you to just say that you had second thoughts at the last minute and agreed to stand down if your hostages were returned.

	16-01-2003 12:37									#127
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I knoiw my nation will be vaporised, thats why only the capital has disapperd. However I cannot allow terrorism to go unpunnished

	16-01-2003 12:40									#128
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*SIGH* Terrorism? In your view, perhaps. My concern is to ensure that the game doesn't degenerate into a nuke throwing contest. We're all better off if our nations still exist, are we not?

	16-01-2003 12:43									#129
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fair enough if you make the attempt to look back I have edited my nuclear launch post. I still await an apology from the remnants of ther Alecrastian government and when this occurs we will pay 500 million fleeces for the loss of their capital, provided I get my citizens back alive!

	16-01-2003 12:49									#130
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I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here. if you launch ANY NUKES AT AL, your nation will be annihilated. I don't want to have to deal with all the sh*t that will result from that. So I suggest that you take back your launch and stand down in return for your hostages back, and matters will be resolved.

	16-01-2003 12:59									#131
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whatever obviously you haven;t closely read the edited version of the attack.

	16-01-2003 13:03									#132
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*SIGH* Can't you try to wage war without coming up with some kind of new superweapon? Personally, I'd say detonate something that just leaves a huge amount of interference behind, which would achieve your goal but be a bit less overwhelming - unless you want me to open fire on your capital with my Secret Orbiting Death Ray

	16-01-2003 13:06									#133
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Considering thats the only thing of the orignial attack I have kept..... Also it is not as effective as thought. All Civilian and Government electronics are still up, only Military ones have been effected, cause the detonation focussed on those frequencies.

	16-01-2003 13:17									#134
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Ok. I suppose I'll just have to fly in another one of my AWACS planes and hope they can keep up with the traffic volume. Archaic will have to give his consent, though, so I think we should just put things on hold for now.

	16-01-2003 13:27									#135
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Why should Archaic give his consent, I never gave him my consent to kidnap my citizens

	16-01-2003 13:31									#136
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If you're serious there, it's because we're trying to work out a story we can all agree on, so we don't see the kind of 'I nuked you!' 'No you didn't!' 'Yes I did!' arguments that took place earlier.

	16-01-2003 13:31									#137
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fair enough, okay I will agree to this.

	16-01-2003 14:09									#138
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how the hell did this thread get a hundred odd more posts in just a couple hours?

	16-01-2003 14:11									#139
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We had a close call to nuclear war and then a bit of a flaming session cause of it

	16-01-2003 14:12									#140
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I take it you haven't had much experience with the OT? It's the same reason.

EDIT: And yes, the flames helped too.

	16-01-2003 14:31									#141
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Ok. I suppose I'll just have to fly in another one of my AWACS planes and hope they can keep up with the traffic volume. Archaic will have to give his consent, though, so I think we should just put things on hold for now.

Personally, I still think he's overdoing it. Superweapons, massive armies on my shores when I'm nowhere near him, him even making the order when he's got a trained assassin with a gun to the back of his head (Check back a few pages. ^^; [EDIT: Top of page 5 for anyone who can't find it.])....

A much more reasonable one would be Sheepsta standing down and starting reperations, my hostages being released in Jacksonville and my Yakuza unit withdrawing. After that, me and Sheepsta can have a nice little cold war.

	16-01-2003 14:35									#142
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And I can buy some of the stolen nukes?

	16-01-2003 14:37									#143
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Of course. You'll have first dibs in thanks for your efforts. The rest......to auction. Though we'll only accept bids from nations who've agreed to the no-first strike pact of course.

	16-01-2003 15:49									#144
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OOC: I don't have time to react to all your diplomacy as during the past 12-24 hours this thread has exploded, so I rewind back quite much.

Suomi condemns SS' use of nuclear missiles, but admits that it was a defensive measure. The troops of the Suomi army and air force pull back from the former rebelist areas and denies any military support for now as the regional political situation is too unstable. The parliament agrees about an aid package of 100 million Markkas to the Tassasarian government and promises to intermediate in any peace talks. Our foreign ministry has issued a statement in which it welcomes Sheepsta's latest foreign policies, but adds that more has to be done as there's a growing threat from the CFC region.

OOC: Well, from where else than CFC then?

	16-01-2003 17:12									#145
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Redscape a growing force to our north

	16-01-2003 17:14									#146
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Ha stolen nukes and you accuse me of being unrealistic. I will agree to the fact that I never made a nuke strike on Alecrast if they never had any special forces in my country. Security is too tight to permit it.

	16-01-2003 19:30									#147
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Let me quote something to you from earlier.

quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Anyway, them problem witht hings like this si that you inevitably get people like Sheep coming along and spoiling things for everybody. In such circumstances, I think it's perfectly reasonable to use a Deus Ex Machina to prevent the whole thing from coming apart./OOC

	17-01-2003 05:29									#148
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Oh, and just to get back to the original point of this thread: How goes the civil war? Tassadar?

	17-01-2003 06:27									#149
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I'm pretty sure he said a while back that the majority of the riots were quelled.

	17-01-2003 06:36									#150
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Yes. With a few cities still under UBM control. However, that was before the Elysian invasion.